What are you Listening To Right Now? - and more
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musichal
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How about Europe 72? Sounds very good to me.
I'm not a deadhead, but I notice that they love the song paired with I Know You Rider and many/most cite 72-74 as the best years for this song pairing. The Europe 72 'cat segues smoothly into Rider without a pause, and is well-recorded.
For Deadhead answers, see:
https://www.quora.com/Grateful-Dead...rsion-of-China-Cat-Sunflower-I-Know-You-Rider
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Crazy Gnome
Let Love Rule
Eugene Mcdaniels
Outlaw
Outlaw
musichal
poet emeritus
Santana Lotus
After the eponymous '69 release, then Abraxas in '70 and III in '71, I was happy with my Santana collection, and bought no more releases. I heard snippets of Lotus in passing, but never really sat down and listened, though I did finally buy the CD a couple years ago, which is how long it took for me to get into a Santana mood (not 40 years, but I don't listen to Santana very often anymore), probably triggered by my fevered run through various Grateful Dead live releases in the past twenty hours or so. Contemporaneous, you see. Really enjoying Santana Lotus - it's better than I thought.
I know what some of you are thinking... after twenty hours of Grateful Dead live recordings, the sound of ragged, split fingernails screeching across a blackboard would also sound better than you thought, dummy. Well, it wasn't all Dead - between albums I listened to some of your selections, and made a few of my own, too. (Anyone shiver?)
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Justin Credible
v8peters
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zeffer1940
Active Member
Columbus oHIo Fun eccentric Koal and band
No Other records #3
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No Other records #3
OnTheBlitz
<-Say Hello to my Little Friends
I decided to validate, once and for all that I'm not crazy and not just "imagining" this remastering phenomenon. So, I maintained my volume gain at the exact same level and played the title song, track#6 of both CD's, the remaster and the original, immediately "back to back" to compare them. The remaster is definitely way louder, by +6db. When defining "db", every "+3db" is 2x the power, meaning amplifier wattage output doubles (please reference this well written link, which is an easy to understand article explaining and outlining in detail the topic of db with relationship to power). I precisely measured the db level using my DBX 14/10 Spectrum Analyzer/EQ/SPL w/DRO and at 1 meter distance from each L/R speaker channel. I also measured the db level lying back in my comfy bed, which is "smack dead center" of my two Polk LSiM 707 Speakers, that are both "towed in" forming a perfect triangulation point, right where my two dumbo ears are attached to my melon sized head, resulting in a nearly perfect apex, both in the horizontal and vertical planes, the "sweet spot zone", again +6db increase in loudness. All db measurements were performed using the peak hold function of the DBX. The remaster does not have anywhere near the Dynamic Range as the Original CD. They EQ'd the top end of the spectrum of the remaster, way, way up, starting 4KHz. So, I've now listened to the entire CD and found it overall to be quite fatiguing by the time I finished it. This was at a moderate listening level of 85db.I'll be interested to see your results. @Bill Will you might have gotten lucky. As per me and @GSS61 the AC/DC CD remasters are junk. However, curious what Kevin reports. My AC/DC Back in Black junk remaster CD is: EPIC K 80207-S1 Bar-Code# 6 9699-80207-2 6 (see attached pic of the now said coaster). I also find it funny how well the file name of my pic ended up "EPIC Junk"
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Now Playing the one that sounds good! Another example, once again that on some early CD's, which I have many, that they "got it right" "first time out of the gate" - demonstrating the full potential of CD Audio
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-Blitz
I then referred to the very useful tool that @GSS61 shared with me: http://dr.loudness-war.info/ I wish I would have known about this WEB site when ever it first came out, again thanks @GSS61 for sharing this with me. It has a fairly expansive database of albums. I will definitely be referencing this tool prior to any future CD purchases.
GREEN = GOOD
YELLOW'ISH / LIGHTER GREEN = ACCEPTABLE
RED = BAD
So, here is where the "Rubber meets the Road":
Here is the Dynamic Range Database information of my original release AC/DC Back In Black CD - Atlantic# 16018-2 (YEAR RELEASED 1985):
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/100271
ALL GREEN = GOOD! Notice the RMS values of the songs and that the PEAK values have a corresponding number, not just 0 and a much further spread between the two, demonstrates a wide dynamic range:
So, again, here is where the "Rubber meets the Road": this clearly shows why this remaster is junk and that my ears don't Lie
Here is the Dynamic Range Database information of my remastered AC/DC Back In Black CD - EPIC# 69699 80207 2 (YEAR RELEASED 2003):
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/50958
ALL RED = BAD! Notice the RMS values of the songs and that the PEAK values are a 0 and the spread between the two is much less than the original CD.
This demonstrates that there is literally very little dynamic range:
-Blitz
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Crazy Gnome
Let Love Rule
Eugene McDaniels
Headless Heroes of The Apocalypse
Always fun to find a rarity that the Beastie Boys sampled from.
Headless Heroes of The Apocalypse
Always fun to find a rarity that the Beastie Boys sampled from.
v8peters
Lunatic Member
musichal
poet emeritus
I decided to validate, once and for all that I'm not crazy and not just "imagining" this remastering phenomenon. So, I maintained my volume gain at the exact same level and played the title song, track#6 of both CD's, the remaster and the original, immediately "back to back" to compare them. The remaster is definitely way louder, by +6db. When defining "db", every "+3db" is 2x the power, meaning amplifier wattage output doubles (please reference this well written link, which is an easy to understand article explaining and outlining in detail the topic of db with relationship to power). I precisely measured the db level using my DBX 14/10 Spectrum Analyzer/EQ/SPL w/DRO and at 1 meter distance from each L/R speaker channel. I also measured the db level lying back in my comfy bed, which is "smack dead center" of my two Polk LSiM 707 Speakers, that are both "towed in" forming a perfect triangulation point, right where my two dumbo ears are attached to my melon sized head, resulting in a nearly perfect apex, both in the horizontal and vertical planes, the "sweet spot zone", again +6db increase in loudness. All db measurements were performed using the peak hold function of the DBX. The remaster does not have anywhere near the Dynamic Range as the Original CD. They EQ'd the top end of the spectrum of the remaster, way, way up, starting 4KHz. So, I've now listened to the entire CD and found it overall to be quite fatiguing by the time I finished it. This was at a moderate listening level of 85db.
I then referred to the very useful tool that @GSS61 shared with me: http://dr.loudness-war.info/ I wish I would have known about this WEB site when ever it first came out, again thanks @GSS61 for sharing this with me. It has a fairly expansive database of albums. I will definitely be referencing this tool prior to any future CD purchases.
GREEN = GOOD
YELLOW'ISH / LIGHTER GREEN = ACCEPTABLE
RED = BAD
So, here is where the "Rubber meets the Road":
Here is the Dynamic Range Database information of my original release AC/DC Back In Black CD - Atlantic# 16018-2 (YEAR RELEASED 1985):
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/100271
ALL GREEN = GOOD! Notice the RMS values of the songs and that the PEAK values have a corresponding number, not just 0 and a much further spread between the two, demonstrates a wide dynamic range:
View attachment 933768
So, again, here is where the "Rubber meets the Road": this clearly shows why this remaster is junk and that my ears don't Lie
Here is the Dynamic Range Database information of my remastered AC/DC Back In Black CD - EPIC# 69699 80207 2 (YEAR RELEASED 2003):
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/50958
ALL RED = BAD! Notice the RMS values of the songs and that the PEAK values are a 0 and the spread between the two is much less than the original CD.
This demonstrates that there is literally very little dynamic range:
View attachment 933773
-Blitz
"...had circles and arrows with a paragraph on the back of each one to be used as evidence against us."
GSS61
Super Member
Both of the towers are assembled and working fine... early impression is that they sound pretty decent. Will need to do some more listening to know for sure.
I still have to replace the grill cover fabric with new black speaker cloth, and re-attach the walnut veneer trim panels to the lower front part of the cabinets...
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I still have to replace the grill cover fabric with new black speaker cloth, and re-attach the walnut veneer trim panels to the lower front part of the cabinets...
GSS61
Super Member
Perfect for a quiet Sunday morning...
