Update: This stuff is nasty and the bottle is DANGEROUS.
Yes, embarrassing to me, but I thought it was worth sharing. Diluted hepastat is apparently not a big deal (even at the 256 concentration), but at full strength it'll get'cha. That said, regular old bleach would have been even worse. I'll reiterate the packaging conundrum. If it ONLY works with a certain type of system, it should say so (and have instructions) on the label. A real lapse on the part of Staples/Coast Labs.All professional cleaners need to be handled with care! Sorry to hear about your experience, but it helps people be aware of this. It's similar to splashing Simple Green or Lysol in your eyes. Even the IPA we all use is dangerous in this regard. Why some Hepastat packaging has a dispenser to deal with I do not know.
Vancouver CA or WA?Can anyone tell me where I can purchase Triton X-100 or Nonidet NP-40 in Vancouver?
Vancouver CA or WA?
FYI - the cleaning solution (Hepastat, Terg 3&9, iso alcohol, and distilled h2o) will be used in a 40kHz ultrasonic machine.
Call these guys or order on line. I just called and asked, they do ship to CA.I should have included that distinction. Vancouver Canada
Thanks very much for taking the time to respond and calling them !!!Call these guys or order on line. I just called and asked, they do ship to CA.
http://www.talasonline.com
This where I bought my Terg form and will buy my Triton from when I use up my Terg next year.
Unfortunately, not everyone on this forum lives in the US of A. I'll find a distributor in Canada eventually.
Did you find a Canadian distributer ? I'm in Vancouver and a few of us AKérs here would like to share a bottle.
I ordered mine from them (Talas Online) roughly 10 years ago. No problem then...delivered by mail. There might still be a chance.Being a chemical it might be a bit of a hassle getting it through customs but I will go this route if I cannot find a Canadian distributor.
The mixture is recommended by Collections Canada...I've been using it for nearly a decade without issue. In fact, for a brief period I was mixing S3 in baby oil and applying it directly to the vinyl before submerging the record in a U/S bath with water and S9. Best cleaning I've ever seen/heard, though the areas around the label protectors needed special attention. For this, I had to scrub and flush it with water/S9 to remove the last traces of the oil/S3.FWIW the Tergitol S-3 is oil based and will not do any cleaning in a water based mixture.I have confirmed this with both DOW and personal experience. It will break down into tiny droplets in the US and be a bitch to remove from LP. I have done this and been very sorry. I know others say it disolves in water they mix the two together but that is not possible according to DOW. I use the S-9 only in distilled H2O in my US and get fantastic results. I add a tiny drop of Dawn for greasy fingerprint removal.
I was mixing S3 in baby oil
I am using Rushton's formula for record cleaning. For the final rise, I found the following water on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0043EVKGM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and I add 3% Denatured Ethyl Alcohol.
Does anyone see any issues using this water for the final rinse?
The recommended mixture is at a 0.05% concentration of each, S3 and S9. I use a higher concentration of the mixture on my prescription eyeglasses. If it left any kind of a residue after the rinse, I'd know about it.I do not doubt recommendations exist for using the S-3 in water. W/O beating a dead horse it sounds like what you had around the label is what I had in the grooves. My guess is the oily nature of the residue left behind would quickly become a dust gathering stylus killer actually getting the stylus oily as well.
To be clear, I'm not talking about dissolving S3 in water, but rather, mixing S3 and S9 together and dissolving the mixture in water. S3 is soluble in S9, the S9 in turn is soluble in water. The combined mixture does not separate or leave an oily film when they're properly mixed together.As previously stated I have no doubt people can find recommendations (not from DOW however) to use S 3 in water.
Many of us are adding isopropyl alcohol to our mixes. Because many nonpolar compounds and oils are included in isopropyl alcohol's range, it is quite possible that that the dissolving of S3 is enhanced by the presence of the isopropyl in the mix.To be clear, I'm not talking about dissolving S3 in water, but rather, mixing S3 and S9 together and dissolving the mixture in water. S3 is soluble in S9, the S9 in turn is soluble in water. The combined mixture does not separate or leave an oily film when they're properly mixed together.