BTW, fresh vs. frozen...I used to get Butterball turkeys many years ago, back when my ex and I used to have family over, and we always had good luck with them. Haven't made a full bird since then. I bought a Butterball turkey breast last year and it was horrible. Very salty, not very flavorful, tasted slightly like chemicals (or whatever the hell they injected it with), and the meat had a strange feel to it, almost like it was tenderized. Our local market has fresh turkey breast roasts year-round, and they are not badly priced, so I buy those when I need them.