Gun Porn

MY Army MOS was automatic weapons and I qualified on these bad boys. The Quad 50's were used for air defense during WWII but in Nam they were strictly anti-personnel.

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I'll take high wages, good workmen's comp and unemployment insurance and first rate ethnic restaurants and Phil's <real> Chicago pizza, thin crispy crust and cut in squares, over guns any day.

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None of which will protect you or your loved ones when the census tract you happen to inhabit is washed over by foreign nationals bringing a tidal wave of crime, overcrowding (domiciles and schools), garbage, streets converted into overnight parking lots, trashed public parks, strained infrastructure, crowded emergency rooms, and the feeling of feeling like a foreigner in your own homeland. Lou Malnati's tastes great, above-board wages and UI, and a plethora of eateries are all the more better when you can engage them and return to a nice, quiet civilized residential environment. As time goes on, larger and larger swaths of Chicago are losing that status at a rapid rate. And Rahm's "CityKey" municipal I.D. is inevitalbly going to make it worse.

Having said that, back to the gun porn. As of late, I've been having thoughts of acquiring one of these (w/ no mods):

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None of which will protect you or your loved ones when the census tract you happen to inhabit is washed over by foreign nationals bringing a tidal wave of crime, overcrowding (domiciles and schools), garbage, streets converted into overnight parking lots, trashed public parks, strained infrastructure, crowded emergency rooms, and the feeling of feeling like a foreigner in your own homeland. Lou Malnati's tastes great, above-board wages and UI, and a plethora of eateries are all the more better when you can engage them and return to a nice, quiet civilized residential environment. As time goes on, larger and larger swaths of Chicago are losing that status at a rapid rate. And Rahm's "CityKey" municipal I.D. is inevitalbly going making it worse.

Settle down. I lived in Chicago for most of my 68 years and lived there until 4 years ago. Never needed a pistol. My wife once frightened a would be burglar off with a shotgun which is legal in Chicago. My SMLE and 03-A3 were also legal. Large areas of the city are getting nicer what with gentrifiers like my kids taking over many neighborhoods that were pretty bad.

I don’t know what foreigners you refer to but the last neighborhood I lived in in Chicago was heavily Mexican, Arab, East Indian, Bosnian, Greek and even Irish and I dug it. I now live in a mostly Mexican part of San Antonio, I dig that too.
 
A .58 caliber long rifle used against the British at Cowpens, S.C. where our regulars out gunned them due to their less accurate smooth bore muskets. While many might think the

Revolutionary War was fought further north we had more battles fought in South Carolina than in any other colony.

The long rifle used by southern sharp shooters so devastated the British officer ranks that any soldier captured with one was executed on the spot. Out of 100 British casualties at Cowpens 39 were officers. A total of 829 were taken prisoner.

If you're ever in S.C. Cowpens is a National Battlefield worth visiting and it's where the wheels first came off for the British during our struggle for independence.

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The Continentals at Cowpens, being regular troops of the line, were armed with muskets, not rifles. Generally Continentals were armed with the French .69 Charleville musket, though some used the British .75 Brown Bess. Some American militia were armed with rifles.

The American rebels won at Cowpens because of Morgan’s superior tactics, tactics which played to British aggression and speed on the battlefield and successfully wrong footed them, not because the British were outgunned by superior weaponry. In fact the musket was far superior to the rifle for combat of the time and remained so until the invention of the expanding bullet and rifle musket in the mid 19th Century. And many modern historians of the American Civil War such as Hess and Griffith think that even the effect of rifle muskets such as the Springfield and P53 Enfield has been vastly overstated and that in fact such weapons, in American hands anyway, on American battlefields, were little more deadly than conventional muskets.

I think the wheels started coming off the British effort in 1777 with the defeat of Burgoyne at Saratoga and the failure of St. Leger’s Mohawk Valley offensive, stymied at Fort Stanwix. It was because of British failure in the North the British went to their Southern Strategy, the British thinking the South, more Loyalist than the North, more fertile ground for their efforts, which it was. But not fertile enough, obviously. Anyway, the Southern campaigns have a very interesting cast of characters and the leaders on both sides were very capable men and IMO Cornwallis was the boldest and best British field commander of the war. He was also later a very capable and enlightened (for the times) governor in both Ireland and India. And of course Greene was one of the greatest generals in American history.

Last summer we visited Ninety Six in South Carolina, where Greene unsuccessfully besieged a Loyalist garrison. Some of the British fortifications are stabilized originals, others, and the American saps and parallels are restorations.

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While off topic, I found these two fairly recent books very enlightening on the British view of and reaction to our rebellion against Britain. “With Zeal...” debunks the American myth that the British army failed to adapt to conditions in North America and “The Men..” studies the political, logistical and strategic elements from the British point of view.

https://www.amazon.com/Zeal-Bayonet...7&sr=1-1&keywords=with+zeal+and+bayonets+only


https://www.amazon.com/America-Walp...3005&sr=1-1&keywords=the+men+who+lost+america
 
The Continentals at Cowpens, being regular troops of the line, were armed with muskets, not rifles. Generally Continentals were armed with the French .69 Charleville musket, though some used the British .75 Brown Bess. Some American militia were armed with rifles.

The American rebels won at Cowpens because of Morgan’s superior tactics, tactics which played to British aggression and speed on the battlefield and successfully wrong footed them, not because the British were outgunned by superior weaponry. In fact the musket was far superior to the rifle for combat of the time and remained so until the invention of the expanding bullet and rifle musket in the mid 19th Century. And many modern historians of the American Civil War such as Hess and Griffith think that even the effect of rifle muskets such as the Springfield and P53 Enfield has been vastly overstated and that in fact such weapons, in American hands anyway, on American battlefields, were little more deadly than conventional muskets.

I think the wheels started coming off the British effort in 1777 with the defeat of Burgoyne at Saratoga and the failure of St. Leger’s Mohawk Valley offensive, stymied at Fort Stanwix. It was because of British failure in the North the British went to their Southern Strategy, the British thinking the South, more Loyalist than the North, more fertile ground for their efforts, which it was. But not fertile enough, obviously. Anyway, the Southern campaigns have a very interesting cast of characters and the leaders on both sides were very capable men and IMO Cornwallis was the boldest and best British field commander of the war. He was also later a very capable and enlightened (for the times) governor in both Ireland and India. And of course Greene was one of the greatest generals in American history.

Last summer we visited Ninety Six in South Carolina, where Greene unsuccessfully besieged a Loyalist garrison. Some of the British fortifications are stabilized originals, others, and the American saps and parallels are restorations.

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That badass rig is essentially a badass gun with wings!

Fixed that for ya! :)

(PG, please give your son my thanks!)

Appreciate that. He saw lots of combat as a "hog-driver" but says very little about it. It's interesting that the A10 is the only plane in the USAF that has no trainer version. The first time you strap it on you solo. He's now training new pilots at Columbus, Miss.
 
Tom,

Here's a quote I found which also contradicts your statement that our forces did not use rifles at Cowpens.

"On the morning of January 17, 1781, Morgan and his men engaged Tarleton in the Battle of Cowpens. Morgan was joined by other American militia forces. Morgan formulated his plan around Tarleton’s despise and quick, rash action toward the militia, and his advantage of the longer accuracy and range offered by his riflemen. Morgan positioned his riflemen to the front, followed by the militia, and regulars at the hilltop. The first two units of riflemen were to retreat as soon as they were seriously threatened, but only after they had taken several deadly shots on the advancing British. The strategy behind this caused a reckless charge from the British"

In my college days at Wofford located near Cowpens our ROTC drill team was called "Morgan's Rifles". Googling Daniel Morgan's Riflemen can also give you more information on the topic.
 
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