You got a timeframe for us? It’s relevant. Hyundai/Kia have been making massive inroads in quality and driving experience over the last ten years. My mother’s 01 Elantra wagon, which barely measures up to comparable cars of its time, feels 30-40 years behind the current cars they’re selling.
My brother bought an '08 Patriot that had around 30k miles on it that still looked and smelled brand new, and by 60k it was pretty much ready for the scrap yard. And it's not like he abused it or took it off road or anything like that. He just drove it to work and back. He kept it clean an tried to take care of it. At less than 40k, the POS automatic transmission started acting up, and the dealer claimed they couldn't find anything wrong with it. It's funny, if you floored it, it would stay at red line indefinitely and barely accelerate, until you let off of it or shifted it manually.Nothing for nothing, I've a Jeep Patriot. Best vehicle - next to my old Porsche 928gts - I've ever owned. Has been very reliable 160,000kms with very few major issues. It is just starting to rust now - which I need to deal with as rust is supposed to be an issue with all Jeep products. It is 4 cylinder and 4x4. Lots of space. Drives well, especially in snow. Parts are cheaper than most and widely available.
Mine is like this one:
When it went out completely at 60k, they told him tough shit, even though he paid for the extended warranty. Not to mention, most of the front end components had already worn out and been replaced. And, the body was already rotting out badly in places, too. The ONLY thing that was good about it was the gas mileage. It was TOTAL GARBAGE otherwise.Probably both. But Chrysler seems to have made a LOT of duds over the years. Except for a select few vehicles, I'd never own anything modern made by Chrysler. I was even hesitant to buy the '83 Dodge pickup that I have now, but almost nobody had anything bad to say about the slant 6 or automatic transmissions in them. Well, aside from being SLOW.
by 83 the slanter had lost 30 hp.https://www.allpar.com/slant6.htmlProbably both. But Chrysler seems to have made a LOT of duds over the years. Except for a select few vehicles, I'd never own anything modern made by Chrysler. I was even hesitant to buy the '83 Dodge pickup that I have now, but almost nobody had anything bad to say about the slant 6 or automatic transmissions in them. Well, aside from being SLOW.
Yep, it's surprising that it runs as well as it does in a full sized truck. At least they geared it reasonably. I've got no complaints for what it is. I normally get 18-19 mpg out of it and I've actually towed a couple lighter vehicles through the mountains of western PA and MD with it.
I was PISSED OFF and SCREAMING obscenities by then.
I could have pulled my FWD Ford Aspire with winter tires in the same spot, and I GUARANTEE I could have gotten out with little to no drama. If it were mine, I would have called Toyota, and told them to come and get that piece of shit out of my driveway.
The 2012 RAV4 was ridiculously over powered , on the highway ,passing someone was not a problem . It was smooth and stable at any speed . No vibrations ,no rattles not a single problem . 2018 Rav 4 , no power , less than 250 miles and you can feel the tires vibrate on the highway , you can see the hood shaking and there is a rattle when I hit a bump .
There is also a horsepower rating system change in there circa 1972. Its not quite as dire as you'd believe if you account for that.
According to Allpar, the '81 and up /6 switched to hydraulic lifters, so that shouldn't be a concern. Correct?
. I'm eventually going to ditch that and switch to a 70's style distributor with regular vacuum advance.
