Stefus_Prime
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The cool aesthetics : price ratio doesn't ever seem to be in my favor, guess I'll stick to my big black boxes for now.
No way at that price point.
This site is largely about finding and restoring the nicer audio gear that was made a long time ago. That may not be what grumpy wanted or intended for this site to be about, but that is for the most part what the crowd here consists of, in my observation. That is why virtually nobody here, myself included, is up on todays offerings in the arena of speakers.
According to grumpy...
"Do you think AK is about vintage and cheap? If you do then you have the wrong web site. Its about a community who appreciates all audio and music."
Good idea, but the VAST majority as far as I can tell AND myself included, are all about vintage.
So audiokarma is about vintage and cheap?What I find ironic is how so many people on this site talk about the wonderful build quality of vintage components. How audio companies really took pride in what they build. How people sacrificed to buy audio equipment back in the day, and that it was worth it.
Yet when an audio company comes out with a product that is a reflection of what was offered back in the day. What do these people say?
"HELL NO! Why would I pay that kind of money for something that cost a few hundred back 40 years ago?"
Yet these are the same people who say that a XYZ vintage component would cost thousands to build today if it were new. And many also say, "I wish i could buy one of these new again." Of course they mean at 1970 prices, because when that modern legacy component is rolled out with 2018 prices, there is no way they will pay that kind of money.
The reality is that many AKers, not all mind you, are cheap tightwads. They are unwilling to pay what a modern, NEW, component sells for. So that is why we have so many threads about estate sales, thrift shops, and craigslist. There are many people here care more for the art of the deal than audio playback. They are even unwilling to pay the market price for a good used piece of vintage gear that offers a great sound versus price ratio due to the fact that it is no longer new.
There seems to be evidence for the idea that AKers are cheap.
Regards
Mister Pig
Yes! No body is interested in any thing new or expensive.So audiokarma is about vintage and cheap?
300 dollars in 1970 would be about 1900 dollars today. Seems like they're milking it a bit
L100s were expensive in the 1970s. Not in my trusty GMM catalog but my recollection is about $300@.
$4k for a pair of well made & good sounding loudspeakers in 2017 isn't at all unreasonable.
I’m in! They’re gonna’ look great with my 1200G!
So audiokarma is about vintage and cheap?
Folks. Listen up now.THE AK moniker is "ALL AUDIO, NO ATTITUDE". That means ALL AUDIO. You do not have to participate in the discussions of new equipment and technologies, but it is YOUR LOSS. How can you know you can have the best system you can, at your price point, if you don't go out and objectively listen? it boggles my mind how narrow minded so many audiophiles are.
I'll probably never own a pair, may never even hear a pair, but I'm glad JBL is doing this. It shows a connection to their glorified past. As ictwoody said, these aren't just the same design and components from 40 years ago. These are high quality modern speakers that pay an homage to the past.
I'm also thrilled with the offings from Kenrick sound. A rising tide lifts all boats. So, keep 'em coming!
BNM
I don't speak for everyone, just myself. That said, the audio hobby for me is part listening, part restoring, part collecting. Vintage audio covers all three bases. New covers only one base and that is listening. There is no collecting or restoring involved in new. It's just buy, hook up, listen.....boring. The vintage purchase is like this.....search long and hard, buy, restore, hook up, listen. Much more fun than new. The vintage audio gear also has more coolness factor.THE AK moniker is "ALL AUDIO, NO ATTITUDE". That means ALL AUDIO. You do not have to participate in the discussions of new equipment and technologies, but it is YOUR LOSS. How can you know you can have the best system you can, at your price point, if you don't go out and objectively listen? it boggles my mind how narrow minded so many audiophiles are.
Compare what you can get from Polk or Boston Acoustics for that amount of cash (I just did - Polk offers their TOTL tower for the same price,