Yes and a 300B SET sounds the same as a Mosfet? Both have their faults and benefits but they clearly sound different. One term created by someone to describe part of this difference is warm. The term seemed to stick and is used by many when trying to share their listening experience. Yes, it is also an over-used subjective term that by itself does not adequately describe a sound, but we all know it in general when we hear it.
Again basically means NADA!
People will gravitate to the sounds they like each and everytime be it whatever it is called just the way it is period
Wrong. You can tell him you want the color of the sky, the ocean, the base color of AK's site etc., take your pick. Just like you can tell an audio salesman you want bloated mid frequency response, right to the exact frequency deviation you prefer. He'll respond "oh, you mean you want a 'warm' sound". You'll say "wut"? in your apparent ignorance and he'll inform you 'warm' is the designated audio JARGON used to describe what makes me gag.So I am ordering a new car and I want it to be “blue” because I like “blue”. So “blue” is a certain spectrum of light no matter what it is called but how do I communicate that on the order form without using a term that is commonly recognized? Do I just say it is the color I like? No, we use more descriptive terms. Like using the term “warm” to describe a sound. It may, or may not be a sound that we like but it is a “warm” sound. “Warm” is what it is period.
Wrong. You can tell him you want the color of the sky, the ocean, the base color of AK's site etc., take your pick. Just like you can tell an audio salesman you want bloated mid frequency response, right to the exact frequency deviation you prefer. He'll respond "oh, you mean you want a 'warm' sound". You'll say "wut"? in your apparent ignorance and he'll inform you 'warm' is the designated audio JARGON used to describe what makes me gag.
Indecent, evidently audible non-linear distortions (mostly 2-nd and 3-rd harmonics) (electrically and/or acoustically inserted) in equipment.What defines a warm sound?
The term Warm may also be a bit of nostalgia from the old tube days. The HiFi's of the day truly got warm to the touch. The console systems, radios all were warm. All I know is I can't seriously listen to SS anymore, all the instruments/vocals sound like they're all at the front of the stage, no depth there.'Warm' and 'rich' often appear in the same context.
As usually happens in threads, the answer comes on the first page. After that it goes hither and yon.Warmth — A subjective term used to describe sound where the bass and low mid frequencies have depth and where the high frequencies are smooth sounding rather than being aggressive or fatiguing. Warm sounding tube equipment may also exhibit some of the aspects of compression.
Also,
General Frequency Response Terms
A good conversation on such subjects:
- WARM: Emphasis is mid/upper bass.
- LAID BACK: Recessed upper mids and sometimes treble
- DARK: Downward sloping from bass to treble
- BRIGHT: Upward sloping from bass to treble or emphasis in treble
- LEAN: Lacking in bass
- THIN: Recessed lower midrange and bass, opposite of BODY.
- ROLLED (top): Recessed treble
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.or...ology-subjective-terms-used-on-superbaf.3400/
This is a bit different from warm vs cold sounding amps. Different guitars produce differing timbres due to emitting different waveform shapes, but different amps should emit the same waveform; not doing so means significant distortion.If you play electric guitars, you know of the Gibson vs. Fender wars. Gibsons, with their dual coil pickups are "warm" sounding and Fenders, with their single coil pickups are "cold sounding"
But an audio signal containing music is a very complex waveform. It’s likely that no two amps exactly match their outputs given the same input signal. Every component affects the signal in some way, so variability in design and component selection should affect the sound. Yes, if you want to say the output is thus distorted, I guess that would be technically correct. I prefer to think of the signal as processed, and there are an infinite number of ways to process the signal and have an acceptable result. Also an infinite number of ways to process the signal and have an unacceptable result. Buried in that variability is the “nature” of the amp — “warm”, “flat”, “edgy”, etc. I’m not saying this is the “correct” viewpoint. It’s just the way I interpret audio devices that sound different with the same program input.This is a bit different from warm vs cold sounding amps. Different guitars produce differing timbres due to emitting different waveform shapes, but different amps should emit the same waveform; not doing so means significant distortion.
So you couldn't use eq to make a Gibson sound like a Fender and vise versa?If you play electric guitars, you know of the Gibson vs. Fender wars. Gibsons, with their dual coil pickups are "warm" sounding and Fenders, with their single coil pickups are "cold sounding" They play the same exact notes, but they sound nothing alike. And one isn't better than the other. In a particular song or in particular hands, one might sound better. I wouldn't care to hear Jimi Hendrix on a Les Paul and I wouldn't care to hear Jimmy Page on a Strat. But I would listen to either one on their instrument of choice any time. Translating this to audio amps, Marantz, for example, has a reputation for having a warm sound. I don't think it's a lack of high frequencies because their published response graphs show a fairly flat response. But something about the circuit design keeps the highs from overpowering. Other amps might have more of a cutting, Stratocaster kind of sound. If I had both amps, I would play my classic rock on the Marantz and my classical on the other amp. Clear as mud, right?
I wouldn't care to hear Jimi Hendrix on a Les Paul and I wouldn't care to hear Jimmy Page on a Strat. But I would listen to either one on their instrument of choice any time. T
Um, there's video out there of Hendrix playing a Les Paul, and Page seemed to be open to playing almost anything, including Strats.If you play electric guitars, you know of the Gibson vs. Fender wars. Gibsons, with their dual coil pickups are "warm" sounding and Fenders, with their single coil pickups are "cold sounding" They play the same exact notes, but they sound nothing alike. And one isn't better than the other. In a particular song or in particular hands, one might sound better. I wouldn't care to hear Jimi Hendrix on a Les Paul and I wouldn't care to hear Jimmy Page on a Strat. But I would listen to either one on their instrument of choice any time. Translating this to audio amps, Marantz, for example, has a reputation for having a warm sound. I don't think it's a lack of high frequencies because their published response graphs show a fairly flat response. But something about the circuit design keeps the highs from overpowering. Other amps might have more of a cutting, Stratocaster kind of sound. If I had both amps, I would play my classic rock on the Marantz and my classical on the other amp. Clear as mud, right?
You beat me to it, lol.Joke's on you. Page did scads of the early Zeppelin studio stuff using a Telecaster. There is footage of Jimi Hendrix playing a Gibson Flying V and guess what? He sounds like himself.
Here: (Full interview) https://www.guitarworld.com/magazin...in-albums-gibson-and-harmony-guitars-and-more
A debate has raged for many years on what electric guitars were used on the first album.
It’s hard for people to believe, but I just used my Fender Telecaster for the entire album, except for one track. Somebody was trying to sell me a Gibson Flying V at the time. I don’t what made them think I could afford it, because I clearly couldn’t, but I asked them if I could just try it out. I brought it into Olympic and used it on “You Shook Me.” With those big humbuckers, it was so powerful you can hear it breaking up the amp in the middle of the song. I could’ve tidied it up, but I really liked hearing the amp really struggle to get the sound out. It’s really fighting through the electronics to get out of that speaker. I’m not sure what happened to the guitar. It might’ve found its way to Keith Richards or something, but I really don’t know.