You must have kicked ass and took names at spelling bees in school!What in the world does a card game (pinochle) have to do with this discussion?
You must have kicked ass and took names at spelling bees in school!What in the world does a card game (pinochle) have to do with this discussion?
Probably some good sage advice!I am ashamed to see the same old gang biting at the same old bait. Same old biases.
Some here should seek to remove the beam from their eye (ears?) before trying to remove the mote from OP's.
It's unbecoming. If someone wants to resort to hyperbole because they're new to the hobby, or have simply found themselves giddy and want to share, WHAT POSSIBLE DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
What I find most embarrassing is how quickly the more fortunate seem to get their asses in a knot. Let it go, guys and girls.
All Audio, NO Attitude. Those who know better to engage new-ish members on the same tired arguments (we know which ones I speak of....cables, $$$$ vs $, etc) need to either respond gently, or not at all.
Enjoy a late 60s design that virtually every manufacturer across the past four decades has long abandoned for its limited resolution.
Far better exists today for under a buck each.
Enjoy a late 60s design that virtually every manufacturer across the past four decades has long abandoned for its limited resolution.
Far better exists today for under a buck each.
Trying to help if better sound quality is of any interest. Maybe not.We'll agree to disagree shall we and leave it at that
Trying to help if better sound quality is of any interest. Maybe not.
Ask Quad why they abandoned using that device 35 years ago. In 1975, I built a Dynaco PAT-5 preamp. Like the 405, it used LM301 op amps. Later that year, I sent it to Frank Van Alstine for the FET-5 upgrade which incorporated LF356 JFET op amps along with other passive component upgrades and a stiffer power supply, The result was a significant improvement in sound quality. Two years later, Dynaco responded with the PAT-5 Bi-FET using a similar upgrade.
I can't believe we're having this discussion about LM301s forty plus years later.
There are many designers and manufacturers who continue to be both profitable and redefine performance across the space of decades. It all depends upon the audience.I really thought that manufacturers were profit driven, so how can they set a standard of excellence ????
I turn the receivers on one at a time and generally the speakers one pair at a time.Actually you can get your gear to sound a lot better and you wouldn't need to spend a dime. However I know it's not how you enjoy the hobby, you want all your trophies in view and plugged in.
There are many designers and manufacturers who continue to be both profitable and redefine performance across the space of decades. It all depends upon the audience.
In this case, you can replicate a 1975 design (including all the warts) from a Chinese source for under $200.
Didn't answer the question of how much new tech goes to cost reduction and not sound quality.Don't listen to pins myself, but really enjoy hearing deeper into my music and sounding closer to the live thing.
Those are the outputs in the TO-3 case (large oval silver devices in upper part of pic). The LM301 op amp was used in the input stage (eight legged black chip centered at bottom above marking 473). Recall it was you who told me in post # 89 they were still employed. If you enlarge the image, you'll see they are LM301ANs. The cost to upgrade them to better sounding TL071s or 5532s would be insignificant.Seems to use onsemi mj15024, not the original lm301.
Only if sound quality is important.Still don't see how your argument has relevance.
I don't find any *cost reduction* with the Audio Research and VTL gear I use. The current version of my amps is even more refined and most certainly not less expensive.Didn't answer the question of how much new tech goes to cost reduction and not sound quality.
Well, at least all the different gear and speakers are an opportunity and not a problem.I agree but people want to be right and their opinion is absolute. That is the issue. They believe they can't be right while others are right. Most don't see the issue with this hobby being more about taste (which is subjective) than it is about right or wrong. I mean why are there so many different speakers out there? If only one was right, we would have a monopoly. As it is, differing tastes demand different speakers, there is no right or wrong. It is a problem with human Nature, unfortunately.
I disagree.I agree but people want to be right and their opinion is absolute. That is the issue. They believe they can't be right while others are right. Most don't see the issue with this hobby being more about taste (which is subjective) than it is about right or wrong. I mean why are there so many different speakers out there? If only one was right, we would have a monopoly. As it is, differing tastes demand different speakers, there is no right or wrong. It is a problem with human Nature, unfortunately.
The argument is always to belittle, as he is the only one with the best sounding gear and the deity anointed him a sound connoisseur.Still don't see how your argument has relevance.
The setup in the room is what I'm talking about and you might like to try it. A conventional set up with proper speaker placement out from the walls and hight putting the tweeter at head hight while sitting. Less gear in the middle and maybe only 1 to 3 speakers setup at a time.I turn the receivers on one at a time and generally the speakers one pair at a time.
I am ashamed to see the same old gang biting at the same old bait. Same old biases.
Some here should seek to remove the beam from their eye (ears?) before trying to remove the mote from OP's.
It's unbecoming. If someone wants to resort to hyperbole because they're new to the hobby, or have simply found themselves giddy and want to share, WHAT POSSIBLE DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
What I find most embarrassing is how quickly the more fortunate seem to get their asses in a knot. Let it go, guys and girls.
All Audio, NO Attitude. Those who know better to engage new-ish members on the same tired arguments (we know which ones I speak of....cables, $$$$ vs $, etc) need to either respond gently, or not at all.