Recommendation for full range floor standing speaker
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darkblue94
The Devil made me do it.
I think the FOCAL Grande Utopia is a good one to look at.
Harvestor
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And they can go Lower with a Sub Bass Activator Available still from www.ohmacoustics.com
The vintage OHM model I (eye)
There's not a lot of "true musical information" below 30hz, electronic yes.
http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm
http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm
savatage1973
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Yup--unless you are into pipe organ or heavy electronica, there's not much below 30 Hz (if you are even capable of hearing it). You'll feel it or "sense" it, but not usefully discern anything relevant.
Poultrygeist
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A "full range speaker" implies a a single driver that runs full range. But I don't think you mean full range in that sense. Correct?
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nedseg
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It just so happens I've been 'helping' a friend try to 'spec' a new modest HT system, and it's come down to the same topic.
(But with no good candidates, either.)
Also, I've recently made some upgrades, and have changed my thoughts about 'full range' & subs...so a timely post.
I'm finding a lot of tracks that have a surprising amount of content below, say, 40hz; it makes a Huge difference to have the main speakers handle that, esp cleanly and sharply. (Can also be heard, even at low levels, at the other end of the house!).
Granted, most of those tracks are new ('born DSD'), organ or electronica, but just normal bass and drums 'have it' too, if they are well mic'd. (Pat Barbers' Café Blue 'unmastered' CD, for example.)
SO. My new thinking is to aim for full range main speakers that can do an 'honest' 30hz, and look into subs (servo) that can do the power reinforcement and extension from, say, 10-15 hz to say 50hz.
My current (non-servo) sub doesn't go that low, but does have the reinforcement thing down pat. I've got it set now to just 20hz - 45hz.
(PS Audio has a few useful YT clips about servo-subs.)
Problem is finding full rangers that will go that low, cleanly and loudly.
JBL M2 and 4367s will do it, but out of your budget range.
PS. I have GE centerXL and surrounds. I like them very much, and are extremely well made.
I listened to one of their early towers (I think the 3rd gen top of the line, not the current TOTL) and was reasonably impressed, but wasn't thinking about sub integration at the time. Also not horn speakers, which I have a fondness for.
Good luck - interesting challenge.
(But with no good candidates, either.)
Also, I've recently made some upgrades, and have changed my thoughts about 'full range' & subs...so a timely post.
I'm finding a lot of tracks that have a surprising amount of content below, say, 40hz; it makes a Huge difference to have the main speakers handle that, esp cleanly and sharply. (Can also be heard, even at low levels, at the other end of the house!).
Granted, most of those tracks are new ('born DSD'), organ or electronica, but just normal bass and drums 'have it' too, if they are well mic'd. (Pat Barbers' Café Blue 'unmastered' CD, for example.)
SO. My new thinking is to aim for full range main speakers that can do an 'honest' 30hz, and look into subs (servo) that can do the power reinforcement and extension from, say, 10-15 hz to say 50hz.
My current (non-servo) sub doesn't go that low, but does have the reinforcement thing down pat. I've got it set now to just 20hz - 45hz.
(PS Audio has a few useful YT clips about servo-subs.)
Problem is finding full rangers that will go that low, cleanly and loudly.
JBL M2 and 4367s will do it, but out of your budget range.
PS. I have GE centerXL and surrounds. I like them very much, and are extremely well made.
I listened to one of their early towers (I think the 3rd gen top of the line, not the current TOTL) and was reasonably impressed, but wasn't thinking about sub integration at the time. Also not horn speakers, which I have a fondness for.
Good luck - interesting challenge.
StimpyWan
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With live recordings, especially classical recordings in large halls, most of the hall ambiance is recorded in the low bass. Even the sense of hearing the sound of the room, is in that sub bass reproduction.
Set up a good system, that uses a well balanced subwoofer. Now, cue up a good live recording. Listen for ambient sounds, reverb and echo. Then have a friend turn the sub off, as you listen. It seems like the sound stage collapse's. Most of that ambiance is lost. Not good. And even more reason to find full range speakers or decent subs.
CopperWizard
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Definitive bp10
One thing to keep in mind is that there may not be much fundamental content in music below about 40Hz, but there are harmonics that play a big role in how the system sounds, which is what StimpyWan is getting at, above.
"Full range" mains can mean different things to different people, it seems. True, full-range mains with decent output must be very large and/or very expensive or require a lot of amplifier power due to their inefficiency to counter-act their lack of physical size.
Properly positioned and integrated subwoofers (of good quality, not crappy, fart-boxes) can really make huge a difference in the room and speaker shortcomings.
Do you have any room or budget restrictions?
"Full range" mains can mean different things to different people, it seems. True, full-range mains with decent output must be very large and/or very expensive or require a lot of amplifier power due to their inefficiency to counter-act their lack of physical size.
Properly positioned and integrated subwoofers (of good quality, not crappy, fart-boxes) can really make huge a difference in the room and speaker shortcomings.
Do you have any room or budget restrictions?
sqlsavior
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jaybirdss396
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I would look into Tekton speakers. I have the Pendragons and they have plenty of bass and would definitely qualify as musical.
