My space is 53.325 sqft and I am running KG4's.
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The thing is, is that my room is small so would efficient speakers matter?
My room is about 137.7778 sq ft (10ft 8in x 12ft 11in)
My apologies for not giving more info, this is my first post
For the longest time i used a pair of KEF, i don't even know the model, but it had a single 6 or 8 inch full range driver, as my test speaker in my shop. They were in awful in appearance but the rubber surround speaker was almost indesctructable. And i used them fairly close in just around 5 feet away. The sound quality was good so that i could easily tell if something was off. They were finally supplanted by some Yamaha NS10, mini monitors, which are more full range and slightly cleaner sounding. So, if you can find a pair of NS10 that would be also an excellent choice.I pretty much gravitate to cheap vintage gear but I took a quick look at the KEFs and they seem to be well regarded. My suggestion would definitely be cheaper and should work fine in a small room using the HF-81, unless you like to listen really loud.
The Dynaco A25 was measured way back in the 70s as having an efficiency of 82-83dB/1 watt. There was one published report of them being measured at 90dB but it was with a 10 watt signal and at 6'. So increase to 93dB at 3', reduce to 83dB with 1 watt. Both reports were consistent.
Check out B&W DM601 or the DM602 speakers. I prefer the Series 2 version, better tweeter. If you get the first series, I would recommend replacing the electrolytic capacitors in the crossover with film caps, Much better sound.
Despite your post about your budget (under $300) and size requirements you'll likely continue to get responses suggesting speakers that are much larger and/or more expensive. Welcome to AK. I looked up the KEF Q100s and they measure 11.8 x 7.1 x 10.7 inches. I think all of the speakers mentioned so far are considerably larger so, not practical in your situation.
I believe forum rules frown upon posting links to stuff for sale so I sent you a private message. Check your inbox.
I pretty much gravitate to cheap vintage gear but I took a quick look at the KEFs and they seem to be well regarded. My suggestion would definitely be cheaper and should work fine in a small room using the HF-81, unless you like to listen really loud.
For the longest time i used a pair of KEF, i don't even know the model, but it had a single 6 or 8 inch full range driver, as my test speaker in my shop. They were in awful in appearance but the rubber surround speaker was almost indesctructable. And i used them fairly close in just around 5 feet away. The sound quality was good so that i could easily tell if something was off. They were finally supplanted by some Yamaha NS10, mini monitors, which are more full range and slightly cleaner sounding. So, if you can find a pair of NS10 that would be also an excellent choice.
I get the impression that you guys have some really huge bookshelves......
Seriously, look for some Yamaha NS10. They were the THE studio monitors for many years awhile back. They only cost several hundred bucks nowadays. They sound very good with my PP el84 amps. They are designed for near field listening.My space is 53.325 sqft and I am running KG4's.
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Seriously, look for some Yamaha NS10. They were the THE studio monitors for many years awhile back. They only cost several hundred bucks nowadays. They sound very good with my PP el84 amps. They are designed for near field listening.
I get the impression that you guys have some really huge bookshelves......
The efficiency is the most important figure. I have used b&w speakers with my eico and they sound great!! The rear port speakers need to be placed away from a rear wall for best results, the front firing can be right up against a wall.
I see, thanks for the advice I think I have a better idea on what I should get or at least look for in a speaker.Efficiency is important, but so is your listening room and your loudness needs. Paperwork and specs can be deceiving, very deceiving. What frequency are they choosing as their reference and what distance from listener(reference mic) to the speaker ? Mids and highs do not eat up as much power as woofer needs. So, the manufacturers state a spec which is attractive, whenever possible. That is why the speaker specs are not as important as you trying them in your home.
The posts with speaker suggestions already mentioned are more important then the spec sheets....If you like loud rock, efficiency can, of course matter with a 14 wpc amp. Speaker positioning is another critical criteria (punny). Every wall, floor or corner nearby causes the speaker box's resonance (as in low bass) frequency to increase. Acoustical studies show almost 2 db increase (at and near resonance) when coupling to each wall. That means an easy 3 to 4 db increase in bass if you can "couple" to wall corner junctions on each side. Choosing the ceiling or floor corner positions really can increase almost 6 db at and near bass resonance. Free effiiciency...when it's needed.
Porting in front or rear of the box matters most to each listener in each listener's home arrangement. While one company says their rear box port should not be near a back wall, another says that can be beneficial. It is your enjoyment which matters most. I can tell you the small Frieds with the rear port sound great with the HF-81. One year at the Kutztown, PA antique radio show, these provided the best, on site, late night sound for sure. The owner uses the rear port to his advantage at his home. He "couples" to the side/rear walls, but not too close to the walls. He "tunes" the speakers in his home to enjoy his tunes; his system....
My recommendation is full range drivers in ported or transmission line type boxes. No crossovers to smear or influence any mids/highs. Then again, I know some 3 way ADS/Braun fans who cherish these with their HF-81s. Likewise, 2 way Dynaco A25s can be a good match for some folks....To each their own...Another consideration is the pleasing sound of HF-81s. They usually do sound nice. In my home, my HF-81 with my 6 Ohm Philips 8 inchers usually sound better with the 4 Ohm tap, but the 8 Ohm tap might do the trick in a different space. My full range 8s in TL type cabs sound awesome, not just "pleasing."
I think one of the best "ear openers" is finding an audio buddy whose ears you can trust, who hears things like you do. When you listen critically and agree on similar sonic descriptions, that can be fun. Consider auditioning at someone's place who has some speakers you might be interested in. Bring your amp and some of your reference discs. Maybe, some nearby AKer can bring their speakers to you for a listening session. We certainly do not have the stereo stores like we used to have nearby...Post your needs on this forum and there are friendly types who will help...Enjoy your HiFi journeys...
For the longest time i used a pair of KEF, i don't even know the model, but it had a single 6 or 8 inch full range driver, as my test speaker in my shop. They were in awful in appearance but the rubber surround speaker was almost indesctructable. And i used them fairly close in just around 5 feet away. The sound quality was good so that i could easily tell if something was off. They were finally supplanted by some Yamaha NS10, mini monitors, which are more full range and slightly cleaner sounding. So, if you can find a pair of NS10 that would be also an excellent choice.
TBH, I've actually been looking into the Fluance SX6 speakers ever since I saw this reviewSeriously, look for some Yamaha NS10. They were the THE studio monitors for many years awhile back. They only cost several hundred bucks nowadays. They sound very good with my PP el84 amps. They are designed for near field listening.
You know marketing....always got to put out a new model. Just minor changes between models but the meat of the matter are the speakers which remain the same.I see, thanks for the advice I think I have a better idea on what I should get or at least look for in a speaker.
TBH, I've actually been looking into the Fluance SX6 speakers ever since I saw this review
The SX6s have an efficiency rating of 89±3dB. They are also on sale for about $80 on amazon so I figure, why not? Worst case scenario I'll certainly hunt for the NS10s, or maybe even upgrade to them in the future .
BTW, does the version of the NS10s matter (stupid question, I know)? I looked them up on ebay and I'm not sure if there is a difference between the 10M, 10T, 10MM, 10MX, etc.
http://ns-10m.com/buying.htmlYou know marketing....always got to put out a new model. Just minor changes between models but the meat of the matter are the speakers which remain the same.
I read the review and I'm kind of glad I didn't buy the speakers, and I'll most likely look for some ns10s or maybe even look into some b&ws.This guy says the Fluance SX6 sound terrible unless one applies a lot of DSP correction.
http://noaudiophile.com/Fluance_SX6/