i skipped from the first to last page of this thread(sorry i was in a hurry), but has anyone mentioned the sansui au-g99x. big, black metal, and nasty. last year was '86, thats the year model i have. has a voltage selector on the back, and two big orange meters on the left side. um, 160 wpc(200 wpc in 4 ohms), with .003 thd. yeah for real. a pioneer sx-1250 has very damn little on this amp. get u some. mine is on a pair of hpm 100's in a 20' by 14' carpeted living room on stands bout a foot hi and tilted back a hair. bout three and a half feet apart, and toed in just a hair. oh also, them hpm's have about 75 dollas worth of caps and resistors inside. with a mcs 6601 direct drive tt, jvc cassette and a technics sl-ps 770d cd player.thanks. vegaman