Oddio again I disagree and I own a AT tonearm. ATs tonearms and cartridges are very good but Technics vintage TOTL EPA tonearms and EPC cartridges were in a higher class. I suspect that when the new SP-10R tonearm is introduced Technics will take another giant step forward. They havn't said anything yet but a line of cartridges could well be in the planning for a complete Technics system. To clarify ATs present tables can't compete with Technics tables from the 1970s and yes the AT-120 has ruined their reputation as far as turntables go.