Well, on the 800. I find myself using it more than My sansui 7000, 5500, 3300, lafayette 5555, sherwood 7100a, HK 930, marantz 2250b, marantz 2238, marantz 2220, 1060 and numerous others. I replaced some of the larger caps and it absolutely is perfect for me. The only one id consider as good...