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1961 Statesman II is it worth it?

Discussion in 'Fisher' started by Kasanay, Sep 1, 2018.

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  1. Kasanay

    Kasanay Active Member

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    I have an opportunity to buy a ‘61 Statesman II (provincial).
    It appears to be very much intact and quite original.
    It has the coveted SA-100 amp and a 202-T tuner. The amp is missing it’s cage (if it ever had one).
    The cabinet is in pretty good condition.
    Not sure what I would do with another console but I would love to add an SA-100 to the collection.

    We are close to a deal but I’m wondering where to draw the line.

    Your thoughts would be appreciated.
     

     

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  2. macyjrm

    macyjrm AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I’ll draw the line when there are no more vintage tube Fisher items to rescue.
     
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  3. thornev

    thornev Well-Known Member

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    The footprint of a console is large. Do you have room for it? It would be a shame to leave it in storage. Also, moving it around won't be easy if you're not physically fit for it. If it turns out it does need service, are you up financially and physically for getting the work done, either by yourself or by sending it to someone else? Will you play it enough to warrant spending the money? Just some things I consider when deciding. Thorne
     
  4. Kasanay

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    I'm well aware of these facts. I have several consoles - including a '64 Regent (6' long and nearly 300lbs). I'm a bit of an console addict. I love my collection, but the truth is they don't get much use.
    If the one I'm considering was just the components, I would have already made buy. I'm just hesitant in buying another console and it looks too nice to gut.
     
  5. larryderouin

    larryderouin Turn it UP, POP? PLLUUEEEZZZZZEE Subscriber

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    Aw, go for it Joe. Your Daughter will like this one as well as she likes/liked the Regent. Can't Ever have too many Fisher consoles. Just ask the crazy SOB in Md. who has 9 or 10 depending if you count the 560 companion as a separate unit.
     
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  6. walyfd

    walyfd Well-Known Member

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    BUY IT!!! The Statesman is a beautiful piece and not many left... third from the top in '61.
     
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  7. Catmanboo

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    Dispose of some lesser space-taker-uppers, & snag that. It'll all work out. Worth the time & $$ to sort out. Ask Larry. He's packratted a few over the years. Much tech assist available here!:)
     
  8. Kasanay

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    This is probably best approach. Problem is, I’d have to make the purchases now - with the intention to sell off some others real soon. But, I’ll come home with the new toy and forget about the selling part.
     
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  9. larryderouin

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    And just who do you think the Crazy SOB in Md. is????????
     
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  11. walyfd

    walyfd Well-Known Member

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    I'd feel that, if I had a President, Regent and Executive, I'd need a Statesman as well of any year. 1961 was an incredible year of all Fisher tube units so this is no exception.

    You don't want it, I'm sure someone else here would be happy to take it... it'd look nice in my living room.
     

     

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  12. Kasanay

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    Hey guys,

    The big question remains - How much is too much?
    Would you pay $500, $1000, $1500???
    I know there are a lot of variables, but generally speaking, what are your thoughts?

    Also, I'd like to know if the SA-100 power amps always had the protective covers or not.

    Thanks,

    Joe Y
     
  13. larryderouin

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    Joe; If it's currently working and just needs a tuneup/recap your lower # is a bit high, even in pristine condition, but market conditions prevail in most cases. See if you can find comparable units on E-PREY that have sold and get a high / low spread.

    Units in consoles did not generally come with cages, I would imagine as the cabinet was felt to be protective enough.

    Larry
     
  14. Kasanay

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    I just looked and was not surprised to not fine any '61 Statesman listed, but I did see an AS-100 (without a cage) "serviced" with n asking price of $800 plus shipping. I also know that one sold for $660 a few weeks ago.

    I have seen the 202T listed in the $200 range.

    Maybe I up my offer a little and see what happens.

    Thanks,
     
  15. vendo81

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    I'd go for it. Nice console and the early statesman.

    I've never seen a $200 202T, even beat up ones. The only cheap 202T's I've seen are "buy it now" auctions where the person had no idea of what they were selling. The 202T's are fairly scarce and the SA100 is a great amplifier. If in good condition I'd make them an offer. It's a shame the cage is missing as they can be difficult to locate.
     
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  16. Kasanay

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    Well, I’m probably going to regret it for a long time to come, but I let this one go.
    Hopefully some other AKer picked it up. 22407F70-8B3E-4958-861E-75012DCECEF5.jpeg 6505F34F-FFBE-4C0D-BD40-579C51961B06.jpeg F8E63927-9D29-48BC-86B8-2A8E2997955A.jpeg 5E712DED-4192-461D-85AB-E5B147BF9443.jpeg 4F6AB731-0D48-4BC9-9856-F611871E409C.jpeg F58BCA06-8EFA-4060-B023-146B98972B3A.jpeg 0F94C5D0-1C3F-491F-A9E0-155E8D6FF2B6.jpeg
     

     

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  17. biscuithead

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    Ahhh...
    You should change your mind quick!
    I have had 14 consoles in my home at one time... the only ones I regretted are the ones I didn't get, and the ones I sold. Never regretted a buy.
     
  18. walyfd

    walyfd Well-Known Member

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    About how much did you save by not getting it? Lotta desirable iron in there... hope it doesn't get gutted.
     
  19. Kasanay

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    That’s hard to say. I had the purchase price negotiated down to $450. But, I would have had to rent a van as the thing wouldn’t fit in my Venza. Then there’s the rebuild cost.
     
  20. walyfd

    walyfd Well-Known Member

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    I had to do the same when I got mine... that's a fair price considering all that it has.

    I see it has a type A Garrard. That maybe was upgraded from the 88. Or could it be later production... my Executive has the 88.
     

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