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3300/250M vs 7t/16b

Discussion in 'Marantz Audio' started by bsandovalb, Nov 2, 2018.

  1. bsandovalb

    bsandovalb AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Hello experts.. I have the first combo, minty and performing flawlesly.. love how it sounds...

    But the opportunity arises to buy the second combo (7t/16b), also in mint condition, wood cases, manuals and original boxes from the original owner... very tempting indeed!...

    Now, I have a question and it is... how to they compare against each other?, soundwise?... reliability?... not discussing the specs as I can see them in the web...

    What should I expect to gain/loose with this option vs my 3300/250M...

    Thanks for your opinions!
     

     

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  2. wlhd1610

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    I think you currently have the better combo.
    Gotta love those blue meters too!

    Bob
     
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  3. airtime

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    I'm going to go out on a limb and "also say" you already have the better combo
     
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  4. SWL3600

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    Can't wait!:music:
     
  5. bsandovalb

    bsandovalb AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Thank you guys! For some reason I tought you were going to tell me the 7t would be a notch above the 3300....On the other hand, while I can see the 250M being prettier than the 16b, it made me doubt a second the fact the 16 is two monoblocks in one single chases....
     
  6. ChrisMarantz

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    I will be the dissenting voice - I have had all of the equipment you mention and I would say the the 7T is the hands down winner over the 3300.

    The 7T improves every amplifier I have use it with.

    As for amplifiers, the 16B (which is 2 mono blocks) has a sound that I prefer over the 250M. Also, I think that the meters loose their appeal after a while and are more of a distraction. . . - Chris
     

     

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  7. bsandovalb

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    oh man... and the 7t/16b combo is like just came out of the production line, mint, with original boxes, papers, receipts, and includes also mint original wc-2 cases... comes fron a collector who is retiring...

    would need to decide if buying or not promptly...

    :confused:
     
  8. airtime

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    How much restoration did you do on them. Just curious. I was in contact with a guy YEARS ago and he wasn't too crazy about the overall sound when comparing to newer (70's) offerings.
     
  9. onemug

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    I can give you a 75% opinion (;)) having owned/own 3/4 of those components...own a 7t/250m combo, used to run a 16b with the 7t:

    Get the 7t/16b, you might enjoy it more. You can make 4 different systems out of them and maybe come up with the most magic pair. It really depends on 'your' ears/room/speakers.

    Never heard a 3300, so no comment there, but I like the 7t enough that I have run it with my tube 8b and can't fault that pairing. fwiw, I do like the 7c more. Good luck.
     
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  10. ChrisMarantz

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    The 16B, 250M and 3300 were completely rebuilt keeping to their original design as faithfully as is possible. The 7T was serviced and all of the original components were retained as long as they were within specifications - the exception was the power supply, which was completely rebuilt.

    I personally prefer the sound of the early separates to the later models - the 7T pairs extremely well with the Model 15 Amplifier. The 3300 sounds muddy when compared to the 7T - even though the 3300 is an outstanding preamp - Chris
     
  11. airtime

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    That's very interesting. I wish I had the opportunity to try out a 7t. However I do not have any of the older components to properly pair them with.

    Right now I am using a Conrad Johnson Classic 2SE preamp with both my Marantz 250M and VTA ST-70 (seasonal dependent amps). They both match EXTREMELY well with the CJ - one heck of a good preamp to beat.

    Years ago I ALMOST had my hands on a or 15, or was it a 16???? Really do wish I had tried it.
     

     

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  12. bsandovalb

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    thanks guys!, nice feedback... that is the kind of info I am hoping for...

    seems the 7t is a great preamp... i really like the 3300, I've had several nice preamps in the past (Audio research ref 2mk2, ref3se, levinson ml6, no.26s, mcintosh mx110z, etc)...

    Even if the 3300 may falls behind in some specific areas, it is a very very enjoyable preamp, with gorgeous looks.... I really enjoy it tremendously as I find this specific system 3300/250m makes me enjoy all recordings/genres; it sounds warm, detailed, with enough balls, but without being that bit too revealing that makes you skip not so well made recordings
     

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