AK Log Out Problem: Got a Workaround that Works for You? Post it Here

Discussion in 'AK New Format' started by pustelniakr, Mar 6, 2019.

  1. pustelniakr

    pustelniakr Silver Miner at Large Staff Member Super Mod Moderator Subscriber

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    There are many folk experiencing frequent log outs, since the beginning of our transition to SSL/HTTPS format. There are many threads on the subject. This is NOT another one of them. Many of us have formulated workarounds that work under specific conditions, and have posted them in the other threads, where they promptly got lost in the jumble.

    If you have such a workaround, and are willing to share it with others, please post it in this thread. Please be as specific and detailed as you can, so others can follow your instructions and experience some relief. At a minimum, you will need to post your workaround in the context of the following information. Your post MUST contain this information to remain in this thread.
    • Operating System and version
    • Browser and version
    Please note that these workarounds might not work for everyone with the above environments. But it they might help some folks. There is no universal workaround at this time. Workarounds so far are only effective on specific operating systems and versions, as well as with specific browsers and versions. If a posted workaround works for you, with a different operating system, browser, versions etc, you may quote the workaround in view and state that it also works for you, but include your specifics, so your post will be helpful.

    Additionally, if you have an operating system (and version) and browser (and version) combination that seems to work well as is, post that too, so folks can know what to go to to get some relief that way.

    Thread rules:
    • This is NOT a discussion thread.
    • This is NOT a complaints thread.
    • This is NOT an error reporting thread.
    • Do NOT report that a workaround does not work for you.
    • This thread is to be the repository for effective workarounds and/or reliable operating system/browser combinations, ONLY.
    • ALL posts MUST contain your operating system (and version) as well as browser (and version)
    • This thread should be where folks can easily find help, ONLY.
    • Posts not conforming to these rules shall be mod-edited or summarily deleted.

    Rich P
     
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  2. pustelniakr

    pustelniakr Silver Miner at Large Staff Member Super Mod Moderator Subscriber

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    First, for my workarounds:
    • The http layer can be accessed with this link: http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php
    • The https layer can be accessed with this link: https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php
    • If you log into the http layer, know that clicking the "home" tab (at the top of any page), it will move you to the https layer. If you can only operate reliably on the http layer, avoid the "home" tab. Use the "Forums" tab instead. It will take you to the same page without moving you to the https layer
    • If you need to log into a particular layer, but your log ins are not being accepted, you may need to access the other layer and log out, then you may be able to log in on the other layer
    Win7 Pro (SP1) 64-bit, with FireFox v. 65 should not suffer log-out problems (log into the https layer)

    Android 6, with FireFox v. 65 should not suffer log-out problems (log into the https layer)

    WinXP Pro (SP2), with FireFox 43 or earlier may suffer log-out problems (log out of the https layer, then access the http layer and log in. Once you log in, you should be able to navigate AK in the http layer or https layer fine. If you exit AK, be sure that you re-enter on the http layer, you should then be able to navigate eithyer layer fine. If you do get logged out, be sure to log back into the http layer. Note: FireFox 43 is the latest version you can use if your CPU cannot handle SSE2 machine code (ex., AMD Athlon XP).

    If you are on FireFox on Android, you should be able to navigate the http layer fine, as long as you do not hit the home tab which will move you to the https layer. To access the http layer, log out of the https layer and log into the http layer Once you log in, you should be able to navigate AK in the http layer. On Android FireFox, if you log into one layer, then try to access the other layer, you will not be logged in on the new layer. If logged in on the https layer, you will not be able to log into the http layer until you log out of the https layer. However, if you log into the http layer and try to access the https layer, you will not be logged in, but will be able to log in without logging out of the http layer.

    Rich P
     
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  3. mhardy6647

    mhardy6647 AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Lenovo T440s laptop running Windows 10 Pro (EDIT) Version 10.0.17134 Build 17134 and Chrome (EDIT) Version 72.0.3626.121 (Official Build) (64-bit) with AdBlock Plus installed: zero problems.
     
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  4. luvvinvinyl

    luvvinvinyl Lily! Staff Member Admin Subscriber

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    Acer Extensa 5635 running Win7Pro SP1, 32-bit with FireFox 65.0.2, and AdBlock Plus. Also FireFox is set to allow Passive Mixed Content.

    I have not been logged out once. I did have to reset my IMG code for my signature banner. I had to add the 's', as it is loaded here.
     
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  5. olson_jr

    olson_jr Dave? Dave's not here man. Subscriber

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    • Apple iMac17,1
    • Mojave 10.13.3
    • Google Chrome Version 72.0.3626.109
    • Content settings in Chrome:
    1. Pop-ups and redirects = blocked
    2. FLASH = 'ask before running' running
    3. ADS = Blocked on sites that run intrusive or misleading ads

    Additionally using AdBlock Plus & U-Block Origin.

    Updated my bookmarks to HTTPs the first day. No logouts to report.
     
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  6. highvoltage_

    highvoltage_ Hello, is there anybody out there? Subscriber

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    Dell laptop running:

    OS; Windows 10 Version 1803
    Browser; Firefox Version 65.0.2
    uBlock Origin 1.18.4

    No issues once I loaded the https bookmark for AK.
     
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  7. PooreBoy

    PooreBoy AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I've had this problem using Chrome for the last few days. I added https to the url and this has fixed the issue.
    This issue does not occur when using Safari 12.0.3
     
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  8. w1jim

    w1jim I can fix it but good... Subscriber

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    Not having any problems accessing via https on my Windows 10 PC
    Log off problem started on my iPhone 8 with Safari using https about 1-2 weeks ago.
    Tonight I tried logging on by manually entering http://www.audiokarma.org/forums - this aeems to work (at least for now).

    Fingers crossed.
     
  9. Hyperion

    Hyperion Roobarb & Custard Subscriber

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    • HP ProDesk 400 G3, i5 6500
    • Windows 7 (64bit) patched up to date. +Norton Internet Security
    • Chrome 73.0.3683.75 (Official Build) (64-bit) +Ghostery, +ABP

    #2
    • HP Mini 110 Netbook
    • Windows 10 Build 1809 patched up to date.
    • Chrome 73.0.3683.75 (Official Build) (32-bit) +Ghostery.

    #3
    • LG Smartphone
    • Android 8.1.0
    • Chrome 72.0.3626.121
    All working fine, no problems other than encountering the occasional "http://" link which I try, if possible, to open in a new tab, so it doesn't 'appear' to log me out. Last time I tried I am unable to log in to http:// - but that's Ok for me as I have no problems (the above excepted) with the https:// login. (NB: all AK 'http://' URL's show as 'not logged in' for me).

    I am currently using https://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php as my login URL.
     
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  10. buglegirl

    buglegirl I Want To Be The Girl With The Most Cake Subscriber

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    Windoze 10 / Firefox with a bunch of different advertising blocking plugins , javascript execution largely blocked and tracking blockers.

    After installing this extension as I talked about below the issues with https have mostly gone away. This extension "Sucks" as it slows down things when encountering non https sites. I installed it mostly because I got tired of editing the URL all day when I came here for https://

    https://audiokarma.org/forums/index...bookm-rk-to-https.857826/page-4#post-12456969

    However this morning I was doing some "Google" searching and got a old post that referenced https://www.audiokarma.org vs https://audiokarma.org and I got the login message and some blocked advertising links in the post.

    I am pretty sure this issue predate's the https:// conversion.

    Meaning you find a old google search result that references http://www.audiokarma.org you would have to do a login. Or maybe you just got a message that states that http://www.audiokarma.org was moved to http://audiokarma.org in the past.

    Frannie
     
  11. highvoltage_

    highvoltage_ Hello, is there anybody out there? Subscriber

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    Windows 10, recently updated to Version 1809

    No issues with https on AK.
     

     

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  12. buglegirl

    buglegirl I Want To Be The Girl With The Most Cake Subscriber

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    OK,

    This morning Windoze10 / Firefox.

    I followed a link from a "New" conversation

    The link referenced https://www.audiokarma.org and I got the login prompt.

    I changed the link removing the "www" and no issues.

    I only use https://audiokarma.org so the issue is transitioning from https://audiokarma.org to https://www.audiokarma.org

    I am guessing a significant amount of these login issues could be addressed by a simple "Apache" redirect of all https://www.audiokarma.org and http://www.audiokarma.org to https://audiokarma.org

    Frannie
     
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  13. Oerets

    Oerets AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Win 10 FF here, and if not for reading this.
    Would never of known there was any problems with AK.

    All is fine on my end.
     
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  14. buglegirl

    buglegirl I Want To Be The Girl With The Most Cake Subscriber

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    FYI,

    This is actually a historical quirk of this site. It existed prior to the conversion to https://

    My logic is that making all connections no matter what redirect to just https://audiokarma.org would cut down on a lot of variables and allow easier diagnosis.

    And yes this is not a novel idea on my part. Just a confirmation of earlier observations by more than a few people involved.

    But in real life this is how I solve issues. I remove all unneeded variables that are possible to be removed.

    Frannie
     
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