They show up. Saw three mint Lafayettes for $200 shipped on ebay about a week ago and I'm not even looking. Almost bought them but WTF I have enough hoarded junk. Just because you can't run out and buy something right now doesn't mean that they don't exist. This was a fairly obscure item from long long ago. Unrealistic to expect you could find them like they are listed on Amazon. I have had saved searches on ebay running for years without hits, like for a second Altec 600ohm RIAA filter module. Now, that thing is hard to get. I think it is safe to blame that guy Joseph Esmilla of JE Labs fame for making this Pioneer full range unit unavailable. BTW, the 6.5", PIM-16A?, is said to be even better, or at least that is the word in the Korean scene where these were quite popular some years back. Now that Korea is a wealthy country, they buy Altec 755As for $2000 each instead. I sent a scan of the Pioneer paperwork on this speaker line to HiFi Engine, so you can learn more there. Altec is insanely popular in Asia and Europe and now it is really picking up steam here. Formerly extremely common, I expect good Altec parts to dry up over the next decade, but so many were installed, they will trickle out long after I have left this planet.