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Anyone else not into surround sound?

Discussion in 'Home Theater & Video' started by Neo-Luddite, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. pustelniakr

    pustelniakr Silver Miner at Large Staff Member Super Mod Moderator Subscriber

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    Moderation note: OK. Back on topic and off of one another. Otherwise, this thread will go the way of all train wrecks, and vacations will be generously distributed.

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  2. MannyE

    MannyE Exterminate! Subscriber

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    One could argue that surround isn't needed for a certain genre of movie... like those depressing German films. I remember one I saw about a woman who was dealing with the trauma of a re-unified Germany... I would have preferred that that movie had not been a talkie... or even made. But then again, as an immersive experience the added ambiance that a proper surround system brings, while not necessary for, say, a courtroom drama, makes the experience of watching it somehow better. But yes, without it, 12 Angry Men is still 12 Angry Men and still awesome.
     
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  3. Grenadeslio

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    Have a pretty good surround system in my music rm, all separates including a stand alone surround processor, separate amplifiers for all channels etc, and yet I still prefer my music in stereo, surround for tv and movies. In other rooms I use stereo for all and don't feel I'm missing anything.
     
  4. markshan

    markshan Sir Thrift a Lot Subscriber

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    You know, I pondered this statement because I know it is true. I have concluded that it is at once true and irrelevant. People almost always express when they find something in particular not pleasurable because that thing stands out to them. People seldom do the same when something is realistic. They take that for granted because that is the "default setting". It's how things should be.

    Let me give this illustration. In my younger days I spent a lot of time either singing/playing in front of a crowd or doing sound for an event. As a performer, I would generally either get complements or no feedback at all. it was very rare for someone to point out an aspect that could have been better. The few times that someone did, they were always trained in some aspect, it was never "regular" people.

    Doing sound, OTOH, I would almost never hear a comment from a "regular" person thanking me for the balance being just right. The only complaint would be if something were either too loud or too soft. When something is just right it tends to not even be noticed by most. When the performer does a good job, everyone notices. When the sound man does a good job, nobody notices.

    This leads me back to your post. When there is just the right amount of low frequency rumble in that helicopter scene, or the car pans audibly in an exact match to what it does visually, that is realism. People don't tend to notice it because it is the "default setting" as it were. It is how things are supposed to be. If it weren't there, would people notice that? I submit that they perhaps wouldn't overtly notice that particular detail, but rather they would talk about how the theater wasn't as good as that one down the street or that the movie didn't draw them in.
     
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  5. markshan

    markshan Sir Thrift a Lot Subscriber

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    Okay, let me ask you. Have you ever listened to something that was mixed for surround? I want to get an idea of what percentage of people who reject it out of hand have either never heard it or have only heard processed "surround". As I said above, I don't like that stuff either.
     
  6. whoaru99

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    ELP's Lucky Man (bonus track) from the Brain Salad Surgery DVD-A is amazing in mch/surround. I first heard it at Ivan Messer's place (aka Masterlu, for the oldtimers still around). Knew then it would be standard/demo material to have on hand.
     
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  7. MannyE

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    I recently went to see "Being Human" the band that plays behind Steven Colbert here in Miami and the mix was just amazing. You are right that the sound guy probably never gets any compliments because when I told him I thought the sound was fantastic, the surprise on his face was almost comical! He then thanked me very sincerely. LOL. The sound WAS freaking amazing though.
     
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  8. SuperLead100

    SuperLead100 "These go to 11"

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    I'm not interested and don't care about surround. When I sit in a movie theatre I'm never convinced; especially because what I see is not in surround so it never matches up for me.
     
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  9. markshan

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    Plus, if we were "regular people", we would be on FB right now instead of here. I don't mean us when I talk about regular people (but I do mean us when I say most have little idea how to set up their rooms).
     
  10. turnitdown

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    Two channel only here, on speakers that don't need a sub. Bliss.
     
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  12. turnitdown

    turnitdown Well-worn member Subscriber

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    Not into surround. I tried it with some really nice gear, I just don't care enough to like surround.
     
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  13. MannyE

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    It IS quite a pain in the ass to set up everything correctly. I have to admit, if we were talking music only, I would not go through all the trouble and expense of setting up surround. 2 channel is more than enough.
     
  14. turnitdown

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    It SOUNDS great and I liked it. In the big room, running the extra wires is a HUGE challenge - but MORE huge is getting the self-admitted Luddite women in the house to operate it in its simplest form. No complaints. That's life.
     
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  16. markshan

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    There are several albums for which the 5.1 experience has so enhanced them for me as to make it completely worth the journey it was to get there.
     

     

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  17. markshan

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    That's exactly my point. You can't mix mono to 5.1. I don't like fake surround any more than I like fake stereo.
     
  18. markshan

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    I think there is room for both in the world. There is certainly room for both in my home.
     
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  19. Harvestor

    Harvestor Super Member

    All thanks to CERWIN VEGA!
    & The 1974 movie Earthquake.....

    I love Movies with immersive surround sound....... but hate music in the surround format.
    Music should be Heard in Stereo in front of you....
     
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  20. markshan

    markshan Sir Thrift a Lot Subscriber

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    Which surround format?
     

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