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Anyone play a Martin CEO-7?

Discussion in 'Musical Instruments' started by louisjames, Jul 24, 2018.

  1. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    If so, any thoughts? I've watched the videos and read the reviews but would like some hands-on input from another AK'er if anyone has one or has spent time with one.

    Thanks
    Jon

    P.S. If you had the choice between a CEO-7 and a standard D28 which might you pick?
     

     

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  2. Mystic

    Mystic We're all born mad

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    Having never handled a CEO-7 but hundreds of D-28s, I'd peobably go w/ the model I know. However, that said, I've long preferred model D-18 to D-28, but beyond those my very favourites, where Martins are concerned, are its various 00- and 000- models.
     
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  3. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    Thank you for the feedback. I've always favored mahogany b/s to rosewood which to my ears has too much "bloom" and overtones for the playing I do. That said, I'm more in the Gibson and Gibson style acoustic camp as I like that "dry thump". Although my go-to is still my beat-to-crap Guild D40. The CEO-7 looks interesting as it adds some richness of tone that the Gibson small bodies do not. I actually had a chance to play a D28 earlier today and it's not for me.
     
  4. Mystic

    Mystic We're all born mad

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    As am I, esp. the J-45 configurations, but also some of the older models, e.g., Southern Jumbo and the Advanced Jumbo.
     
  5. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    Got the CEO-7 and very pleased with it. Unlike many Martin's I've tried this one hits all the high points and has no real drawbacks. I'm currently debating between a vintage J45/50 or a newer one like the Sheryl Crow SJ. The prices on the vintage ones, even early-to-mid 60's have gone through the roof and I'm not sure it's worth spending that much. Although they will probably hold their value a bit better. Also looking at a Greven "J" as I have one of his guitars and like it very much. Boutique / small builders like Kopp, Walker, etc. aren't holding their value well but if you're not looking for return on investment they are a good option. Still, it seems when time comes to sell something a guitar that has Martin or Gibson on the headstock always does best.
     
  6. EngineerNate

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    Love my DCPA3. The Martin traditionalists probably turn their nose up at it but I think it walks the line between the advantages of a Taylor and those of a Martin very well. :)

    Is the CEO a new series as well?
     
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  7. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    The CEO has been in lineup for a while now. Basically it's C.F. Martin IV's designed guitars and range from typical ones to ones Martin had never built in the past like the CEO-7 which looks more Gibson than Martin. The CEO-7 being one of the most popular of the bunch. I also agree that the Martin "Performance" line is a great value and great playing guitar. Let the traditionalists turn up their noses. ;)

    Here's a link to the latest in the series - the 8.2

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CEO82--martin-ceo-8.2-bourbon-sunset-burst
     
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  8. EngineerNate

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    I play live more than anything else and I love the Aura F1 setup. I'm sure they've iterated on it since I got the guitar (Early 2012) but it's still a great performer. I liked the Breedlove and Larivees in the same price range but I didn't think any of them could touch the PA series for actual stage use.

    Is the CEO-7 a Parlor sized body?
     
  9. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    Short scale 00. I typically like a 000 / OM best but this one is as we used to say "Tits". :)

     
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  10. EngineerNate

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    Sure is purty. About the first Martin I can recall that has that sunburst paintjob. I've always liked the look of the Gibson acoustics but I've not been impressed by their value or quality control. Seems like this checks all the boxes. :)
     
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  11. dr*audio

    dr*audio Fish fingers and custard! Subscriber

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    I just bought a brand new HD28. You should really check it out. It's like the D28, but with forward shifted scalloped bracing, herringbone, and tortoise pickguard. It blows away any J45 I have played. The one I bought sounds like an older guitar.
     

     

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  12. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    I did play a new HD28 and agree it's a great sounding / playing guitar. My biggest "issue" with Martin's is simply one of scale. It's more comfortable for me to play a short scale and allows me to open up the chords a bit more as well. I also like the feel of a slope shoulder better than a square shoulder which has gotten a bit much for my older arms / shoulders.
     
  13. EngineerNate

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    I've picked up some of the more classic Martin guitars in-store since owning mine, and my first thought every time is, "Man, this neck is chunky!"
     
  14. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    Which is why the PA neck is so popular. Or is it the Low Oval? Either way, and I like chunky, but not "baseball bat" V necks. Bottom line is the low profile "C's" and "D's" are very comfortable. Especially if you're a "thumb over the top" player. :)
     
  15. marqueemoon

    marqueemoon Gimme indie rock!

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    Sounds really good in that demo. I like everything about it but the sunburst.

    If you have that kind of budget I'd definitely look at Collings before making a final decision.
     
  16. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    The burst was not my favorite part of the guitar but has actually grown on me. In person it's nicer than in any videos / pictures I've seen. I did have a Collings 0001 and an OM and really like those. But the Martin definitely fits the bill and is more than just a "blues" guitar. Plays like a dream, is very expressive and responsive and have a really amazing voice. And while I like 1 11/16th better than 1 3/4, the neck profile on the CEO-7 is really well done. The guitar handles strumming, finger style, lead work and palm muting equally well and overall I can't recommend it enough.
     

     

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  17. PureQuill

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    Hi folks I am back after almost a year. Once again living in my home and access to a real computor!
    Long story see this thread if you're courious ..
    ( http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/mid-century-modern-disaster.811280/ )

    As for the CEO-7 ...I absolutely LOVE mine.
    I have always favored large body acoustics with a lot of bottom end to accompany me when I play solo and write.
    My 68 Martin D-35, 615 & 415 Jumbo Taylors have been my go to guitars.
    But now after 2 recent shoulder surgeries playing them for longer than a few songs becomes too painful and I have no choice but to put them down..

    My CEO-7 has been my savior and is the little guitar that can..
    Looks like a old Gibson but make no mistake it sounds like a Martin.
    Not sure how so much sound and tone comes out of this parlor size guitar but it is impressive.
    The fit and finish is 1st rate, set up from the factory was perfect for me and not a dead fret or a hint of buzz anywhere on the neck.
    Growls like a Martin when I dig in with a pick and sings like a nightingale when finger picked with fitness.

    My only complaint is the "Golden Age" tuning machines, they work fine and hold a tune well but they are not what I would have chosen.
    Originally I thought these tuners have to go! but they loosened up after a few weeks and I no longer feel the need to replace them.
    Eventually when they wear out I will put on some Waverly butter bean machines...But it's not a urgent thing. Just my personal preference.

    So thats my experience with my CEO 7
    As always YMMV
    Cheers

    PQ
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  18. dr*audio

    dr*audio Fish fingers and custard! Subscriber

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    Gorgeous guitar. You don't have to worry about the tuning machines wearing out in your lifetime. If you do replace them, use open gear tuners. Sealed tuners weigh more. Enjoy!
     
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  19. PureQuill

    PureQuill AK Member Subscriber

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    Thanks!
    I really do love this little guitar.
    One of the things that make this guitar work so well for me is not only its 00 size but its weight also. My particular guitar weighs in at only 3 pounds 7 ounces.
    So you are right to consider the affect of weight the of the tuners in the overall equation.
    The present tuners are open backs so I am definitely going to stay with that design if and when I ever need to change them..
    I guess my main issue with the present Golden Age Relic Nickel tuners is they just look out of place and feel cheap.
    The "relic" finished tuners in my opinion simply look "wrong" or out of place to me when the rest of guitar looks brand new with a perfect finish.
    But they may have been chosen specifically because they are very light weight.
    In any event it's pretty good refection of the quality of the guitar if my only negative comment is "I don't like the relic finish on the tuners, I would have chosen something else".
    Cheers
    PQ
     
  20. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    Agree with all the comments and have to say that after playing the CEO-7 these past months it just gets better. I did get a set of Gotoh's for it (direct drop in) as they are a bit nicer and smoother than stock ones, but could have easily left the stock ones in place. I also finally got another Gibson slope shoulder. This time a 2016 J-50 VOS (50's "wide-x" bracing / specs) that is nice and light (just over 4 1/2 pounds) and sounds excellent. But honestly, and while a "J-45/50" has always been my favorite, I'm thinking the Martin and my Greven are the ones that will stay.
     
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