@RayW 's Insignias. These aren't #03 and 04. They are #45 and 46. http://audiokarma.org/forums/index....class-economy-speakers-a-k-a-indignia.160535/ They sound really good. Surprisingly a wee bit better than the Thiel CS 1.2s. I wasn't fond of the shape, but they have grown on me over the years. He gave them to me in return for working on his web site. Which never got done. Ray!