z-adamson
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No.Does it matter if I use caps rated at 250V instead of the original 200V?
Think of it as more power handeling.
No.Does it matter if I use caps rated at 250V instead of the original 200V?
Does it matter if I use caps rated at 250V instead of the original 200V?
And also, is it ok to order 47uF instead of 50uF? And 3.9uF instead of 4uF? All 250V.
Pretty sure most would agree that unless you are dealing with very high end equipment and a purpose built room that provides the perfect room acoustics for said high end equipment, there is no benefit to using those high end caps. Not that they will cause a problem, but the benefits that they offer will not likely be noticed by even the most trained ears.Great. And do you have an opinion on Clarity vs Dayton brand for $150 vs $50, respectively? Thanks!
electrolytic caps should not be used in speakers. Find the cheapest polypropylene caps you can find instead
btw; in my world there IS some best-caps but for different purposes
To be fair to his point, electrolytics will leak after a few decades, and there is measurable distortion unlike any film type. However, they will last a long time, and whether you can hear the distortion is up for debate as the cap is a frequency shunt for the woofer no doubt, where it's literally dumping high frequencies to ground. It's not even in the signal path.HI unfair,
If you could explain it to me on a dummy level, why do you recommend against electrolytic caps in speakers?
Thanks
HI unfair,
If you could explain it to me on a dummy level, why do you recommend against electrolytic caps in speakers?
Thanks
Interesting perspective. I wonder if it really plays out like that in the real world......Because they aren`t up to the task. First they can`t handle any power at all, and second they adds a lot of distortion even at lower levels. Higher power-levels makes them collapse, the unfiltered full range signal blows through and will damage the driver.
Btw; to get a 50uf, buy like 5x10uf polycaps and run them in parallell. Dividing the signal into several caps will reduce both the loss dynamic (there is moore or less loss in all filters, active filters too) and improve the caps powerhandling. Powerhandling is not a big issue with polycaps in a "normal" setup.
Same with resistors, buy 25watts and run them in parallell if used in a bass-filter.
I have a pair of DLK 2 and DLK 3 with the alnico magnets on the 3 . as Midwest speaker in only about 30 mile away . I was going to have them mail out a couple of sets of solen and 2 sets of pots. I know the pots are original and that theyare toast, but the caps are what look to be newer 50v 85c 4.7uf ,10uf and 47uf. I think these are replacement caps but the voltage is to low as the are rated @ 120 rms and 200 peak. this was according to the guys that worked at the Snelling ave production facility back in the late 70s. this are the first generation. I was friends with a few production employees back than. and I had some broches and hand written paperwork. this was back when they were changing to the new style. from your postion I get that these are very good equivalents, but not high end . I usually run 85 to 125 watt receivers or amps .mostly Marantz. in you opinion is this the way for a novice to go?Don't use poly for the 50uF not worth it. Get these, great quality and price:
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dmpc-40-40uf-250v-polypropylene-capacitor--027-421
https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dmpc-10-10uf-250v-polypropylene-capacitor--027-428
https://www.parts-express.com/50uf-100v-electrolytic-non-polarized-crossover-capacitor--027-354
It would for sure be a good way to go still. They not be "high end" but it's not like DLK, while being very good speakers, are high end either. You can always get them and then go from there as far as different caps.I have a pair of DLK 2 and DLK 3 with the alnico magnets on the 3 . as Midwest speaker in only about 30 mile away . I was going to have them mail out a couple of sets of solen and 2 sets of pots. I know the pots are original and that theyare toast, but the caps are what look to be newer 50v 85c 4.7uf ,10uf and 47uf. I think these are replacement caps but the voltage is to low as the are rated @ 120 rms and 200 peak. this was according to the guys that worked at the Snelling ave production facility back in the late 70s. this are the first generation. I was friends with a few production employees back than. and I had some broches and hand written paperwork. this was back when they were changing to the new style. from your postion I get that these are very good equivalents, but not high end . I usually run 85 to 125 watt receivers or amps .mostly Marantz. in you opinion is this the way for a novice to go?
Hi so is there an update on these after Installing the new caps ? ThanksThanks! I ordered the Dayton poly caps all the way around. I did make sure the 4uF and 10uF were the 1% tolerance version, but they didn't have a 50uF in that range, so just got the 027-443 mentioned above. I'll let you know when I get them installed, and I'll do one at a time so I can A-B them. I'd love to be able to hear the difference if the old ones are bad.
Thanks again for your patience with my dumb questions!