There are some Mac pre-amps everyone wants. C-22 or C-28, for instance. But if phono is important to you, C-29 or C-30 are better units even though they are off the radar screen. If you want to save space, the C-712 or 715 are good units that are often over looked. Another to consider is the last 16" wide unit Mac built. The C-37 with remote control. If you love the tube sound and want a C-22 in sheeps clothing, you need to find a C-11. C-20 is for folks who have vast record collections that need different EQ curves. If you like a forward sound the Marantz 7c is a winner and I always felt the 7t was more faithful to the recording. We sold Kenwood, Yamaha, Sansui, and Pioneer, and though I would never own one I preferred the Sansui units. They were more mellow and didn't have the fatigue factor of the others. Pioneer Elite units were always to be taken seriously.