Best Way To Stream Spotify or Tidal?

Discussion in 'PCs & Music Servers' started by ratatatwilly, Jun 17, 2017.

  1. ratatatwilly

    ratatatwilly Member

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    Hey guys,
    So I'm currently using a Google Chromecast Audio to stream to my system from my phone. The sound quality is lacking though and there is a huge difference in when I cast vs. come straight out the digital output of my MacBook Pro. I have a Modi Multibit DAC and you can tell a huge difference when coming straight from the Mac vs. CCA. This works well because I can control Spotify from my phone while its streaming from the Mac (Tidal needs to step it up) which is the function that I want to keep but using the laptop just isn't practical all the time. I thought about getting a iFi iPurifier to help to CCA but the reviews seem mixed and I feel like my money would be better spent on a stand alone source anyway. Basically I want to be able to have a dedicated high quality player that runs straight into my DAC that I can run Spotify and Tidal off of. Any thoughts on what would be a good solution? Can you use a Mac Mini like this or do you have to have a display for it?

    P.S.I'm not tied to Apple
     
  2. drew_t

    drew_t Well-Known Member

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    The CCA will output digital audio if you plug an optical digital cable into it (mini Toslink on the CCA end; whatever fits your DAC on the other) instead of the analog cable. Shouldn't be any different than connecting the MBP to the DAC, as long as your wifi is OK.
     
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  3. bjlefebvre

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    I was actually mulling this. I'm using a Rogue Sphinx amp, and wondering if buying a Schiit Modi Uber 2 or Modi Multibit would be worth it sit between my CCA and the Rogue. Is the sound that much improved to be worth the $150 for the Uber or $250 for the Multibit? I mostly stream music via the CCA, though I might eventually play hi-res files saved on my laptop.
     
  4. drew_t

    drew_t Well-Known Member

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    ^ The only way to know is to try it, I guess. If you had two CCAs you could try to set up an A-B test.
     
  5. ratatatwilly

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    So that's how I use my setup. I stream to my CCA that goes optical out to my Modi Multibit then to my preamp. The Multibit drastically improved my CCA experience but even more so when I stream out of my laptop. From what I read there is a big jump from the Uber 2 to the Multibit. It gets better with time too. I tested it analog vs optical on the CCA and optical is the way to go. I don't think you'd regret purchasing a Multibit. It's been the biggest SQ improvement I've made.
     
  6. ratatatwilly

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    That's how I run it. I can tell a difference though between streaming from the MBP and the CCA. Running straight out of the MBP is a lot better
     
  7. E.Auer

    E.Auer Well-Known Member

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    Something ain't right here.

    Eric
     
  8. ratatatwilly

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    No good reason for the output to sound better from the MBP vs the CCA?
     
  9. drew_t

    drew_t Well-Known Member

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    It's the same stream of zeros and ones being received by your router, broadcast to your wifi network, and being received either by the MBP or by the CCA. Shouldn't make a difference, all other things being equal. If you're getting drop-offs with the CCA, then OK, maybe there's a wifi issue. But if you've convinced yourself that the MBP makes the bassoon sound more sonorous or something like that, then I think you're hearing things.
     
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  10. ratatatwilly

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    Haha right on. I guess I was thinking that I was getting a higher quality output from the MBP. Thanks fellas, you probably saved me a couple hundred dollars.
     
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  11. E-Stat

    E-Stat Super Member

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    I use a Raspberry PI player streaming from LMS. Inexpensive solution with very good sound quality when driven by a decent power supply.
     
  12. ratatatwilly

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    I am familiar with those but have never used one. Do you have to have a display for it? Can you use Tidal and Spotify with it? How do you control what it's playing?
     
  13. E-Stat

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    It is innately a headless device controlled by a smart phone or pad device. I use this one in the garage controlled by my iPhone using the iPeng app which serves as either controller or player. LMS supports both Spotify and Tidal (I have a Tidal HiFi account). I purchased a Digi+ interface and use an outboard DAC. Alternately, you can use an internal DAC as the "HAT" to the RPI processing board. Total cost? About $120 including case. It's performance is darn close to my far more expensive Sonore microRendu used in the main system. Pictured is use with a Jameco linear supply, but currently I use cellphone charge batteries as they are a touch cleaner at the top.

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  14. ronscat

    ronscat Active Member

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    Looks nice and clean there, E-Stat!
     
  15. Tes Jordan

    Tes Jordan New Member

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    Hi there. I have an Onkyo TX-NR656 and listening via some Misson speakers from late 1990’s/early 2000’s. I like to use Tidal HIFI streaming via AirPlay to the Onkyo to listen to classical music. I was wondering & would much appreciate it if anyone could help with advice as to which particular listening mode/other settings on the amplifier would be best suited for listening to this. Many thanks:)
     
  16. bigx5murf

    bigx5murf Well-Known Member

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    I cancelled my tidal and Spotify subscriptions after setting up plex on my nas.
     

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