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Bryston BDA-3 question

Discussion in 'DACs' started by Parabellum27, Sep 29, 2018.

  1. Parabellum27

    Parabellum27 New Member

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    Hey,

    I find the BDA quite interesting as it is one of the few DAC that I know which has HDMI inputs. I am especially curious about those HDMI inputs as it could be the solution of my hi fi system. Right now, my listening/media room consist of a 2.0 system with the integration of a projector. The problem if you wish to integrate a projector into a hi fi system is the HDMI inputs. There are solutions like the Bryston SP3 processor that serves audiophile quality with all the bells and whistles of a HTR. The problem is the cost (at least for me).

    So, if I understand correctly the HDMI inputs of the BDA-3, it will allow the video signal to pass thru my projector but the sound will output in my integrated amplifier? Am I correct? If this works that way, I believe I will swing for the BDA-3 and not worry about the amplifier I will upgrade down the road. One thing, I don't care about all those atmos gadgets et all. I listen more to music than I watch movies. And for my needs, a good 2.0 well integrated will suit me perfectly.

    Thanks for any advice
     
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  2. Parabellum27

    Parabellum27 New Member

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    From Mr. James Tanner himself:

    Yes the BDA-3 works exactly as you described.

    james
     
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  3. gvl

    gvl Super Member

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    There is also NAD C510 or M51 but it looks like they have been discontinued.
     
  4. tcdriver

    tcdriver AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    It looks like just the ticket for someone who wants to extract 2.0 channel information from an HDMI source and allow the video to pass through. I went to the website and I found some good information on everything expect the price.
     
  5. Parabellum27

    Parabellum27 New Member

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    This is exactly what I want. Yes, the price is a bit high, but still much lower than a Bryston SP-3 + 4B SST2 like I wanted at first. Plus, if I decide to change for a new amplifier, or any pre-amplifier/amplifier combo, I will no longer be limited by the HDMI ports. Since I do not care about all the HT decoding, atmos et all it makes sense for me. Hopefully other manufacturers will start to implement HDMI inputs into their DAC for that specific segment.
     
  6. Schurkey

    Schurkey Well-Known Member

    J-Tech and many other brands sell such a device. Mine is now $26, I paid $30 a couple of years ago. Other brands and models range from $20 to $300 including some with multiple HDMI inputs. An Amazon search for "HDMI Audio Extractor" will yield many hits.

    This is what I bought to connect an HDMI-output on my computer to the Pre/Pro and projector. I'm using the onboard DAC in the Pre-Pro via Toslink. A back-panel switch allows 2.0 audio vs. 5.1 audio.

    https://www.amazon.com/J-Tech-Digit...4&sr=8-3&keywords=j-tech+hdmi+audio+extractor

    It doesn't have Bryston's 20-year warranty.

    [Edit] It must have at least a rudimentary D/A converter and maybe a headphone amp, as the RCA jacks are listed for use with headphones, without a D/A converter in-line. I've never tried that feature on mine. I don't see a volume control for the RCA jacks. Wild Guess: 2-channel line output, not really a headphone output.[/Edit]
     
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  7. duncan

    duncan more music than time Subscriber

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    Not to hijack the thread I hope, but I wonder if something like the J-Tech device is what I need to find the hi-res streams from bluray audio discs. When I play one on a Sony BDP-S580, its S/PDIF output remains stubbornly at 48khz regardless of player config or disc menu choices, which promise 192/24. So maybe that is a limitation of the player, and what I want is only on the HDMI line where an extractor box would get to it?

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    Edit - never mind, I guess this has been discussed to death elsewhere - the 48/16 limit is a well known part of the blu ray spec and originates with copy protection paranoia. I just hadn't known before. Carry on.
     
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  8. Parabellum27

    Parabellum27 New Member

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    Well, well, well, look at that. How interesting! I didn't know there was such devices. Essentially, what Bryston did was to integrate a HDMI audio extractor into the BDA-3. Well, that could save me a few thousand bucks if I can get one with enough HDMI inputs with coaxial and/or toslink output for an inexpensive but potent DAC. Thanks a lot for the suggestion.
     
  9. Schurkey

    Schurkey Well-Known Member

    Lots of inputs is no problem. J-Tech makes one with eight, plenty of others with 3--4--5--6 in, one or two out. Some with remote control. Amazon has twenty pages of choices.

    The issue will be getting a suitably-acceptable D/A converter. Mine are built-into the Pre-Pro, and I'm satisfied with the sound quality even if they're (by digital standards) ancient.

    APPARENTLY, there's a tiny D/A built into the audio extractor, so that it can output analog via the RCA jacks. No promises on sound quality, as I said, I never tried mine.

    But running the Audio Extractor of whichever brand and model into a stand-alone D/A converter, or into an AV receiver, or a separate Pre-Pro having on-board D/A conversion will work very well if my experience is any indicator.
     
  10. for_p1

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    I used this http://www.kanexpro.com/item/?id=HAECOAX one. It allowed me to extract STEREO 24/96 from DVD, and also STEREO 24/88 from SACD to be processed by extrenal DAC, when I used it along with Oppo DVD player. In my case I didn't care about video at all - it was in audio only system with Oppo as universal CD/DVD-A/SACD transport. Though it does pass-through video to next in line HDMI device.
     
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  11. duncan

    duncan more music than time Subscriber

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    I just picked up a very generic HDMI extractor box and have been trying it between the Sony BDP-S780 blu ray player and the BDA-1. It appears to be identical to this one and many others, but for the disposable price of $12.95 from the big auction site.

    No success yet with blu-ray 192khz audio - the DAC just flickers and won't lock. SACDs almost work. They come in at 176khz from the Sony and sound very nice indeed, but with occasional brief sound dropouts accompanied by winks of the lock light. There are any number of possible culprits including the ancient optical cable I'm using. I'll putz around and see if I can figure it out.
     
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