I'm posting this thread as a service to other Canton speaker owners that want to recap and like me have found that the Wego caps that Canton used don't have their µF values printed on the cap.
Measuring the old caps isn't always useful as some of the caps were made to specific non-standard values (such as 120µF) and the ones that I've measured have been universally high (such as 139µF for that 120µF cap) so one doesn't really know which way to guess.
So I've been scouring the web for info and here is a list of what I've found so far, mostly from people posting in German forums that got a reply from Canton. The number is the part number printed on the caps.
Note that when reading Canton schematics electrolytic caps are identified in the parts list as "Kondens.El xxx" and foil caps as "Kondens.Fo". Foil caps id's as "ITT" are the oval vellow bodied caps used in early speakers such as the "LE" series. Where the info is available the lead spacing on foil caps is included. There is also a "Kondens. EV" identification that I haven't quite figured out yet.
Electrolytic capacitors:
1101 = 82µF/23vac
1102 = 22µF/23vac
1104 = 5.6µF/40vac
1170 = 68µF/23vac
1182 = 56µF/35vac
1183 = 15µF/35vac
1228 = 39µF/23vac
1317 = 5.6µF/35vac
1319 = 1.5µF/100v
1465 = 5.6µF
1467 = 10µF
1551 = 3.3µF/23vac (one reference stated 35vac)
1610 = 200µF
1611 = 6.8µF/100v
1615 = 120µF/35vac
1664 = 100µF/35vac
1882 = 4.7µF/35vac
2103 = 10µF/60vac
2379 = 15µF/23vac
2381 = 12µF/40vac
2424 = 33µF/23vac
2520 = 47µF/35vac
2525 = 8.2µF100v
2571 = 80µF/35vac
2695 = 69µF/35vac
2710 = 30µF/15vac
2793 = 10µF/25vac
2800 = 56µF/23vac
2801 = 47µF/23vac
2856 = 4.7µF
2893 = 100µF/23vac
2897 = 2.2µF
2902 = 3.3µF/70vac
3091 = 47µF/23vac
3092 = ? Measured a cap 3 times and got 81.7µF, 81.9µF and 82µF. 15vac printed on cap.
3098 = 18µF/25vac
3100 = 82µF/20vac
3384 = 33µF/23vac
3690 = 8.2µF/23vac
3692 = 10µF/23vac
3766 = 220µF/23vac
3779 = 6.8µF/23vac
4340 = 1000µF
5172 = 12µF
5624 = 82µF/35vac
5668 = 18µF
5935 = 82µF
6440 = 470µF
6447 = 15µF
EV Capacitors:
5875 = 56µF/23vac
MKT Foil capacitors:
1319 = 1.5µF/100v
1465 = 5.6µF/100v (lead spacing 27.5mm)
1467 = 10µF/100v
1611 = 6.8µF/100v
1882 = 4,7µF/60v (lead spacing 27.5mm)
2103 = 10µF/100v (ITT)
2390 = 100µF/100v
2391 = 68µF/100v
2393 = 47µF/100v
2525 = 8.2µF/100v
2525 = 8.2µF/100v (ITT)
2668 = 12µF/100v (ITT)
2794 = 18µF/100v
2856 = 4.7µF/100v (lead spacing 27.5mm)
2897 = 2.2µF/100v (lead spacing 22..5mm)
3375 = 1.0µF/100v (lead spacing 15mm)
5170 = 3.0µF/100v
5260 = 3.9µF/100v
5427 = 22µF/100v
5868 = 18µF/100v
These are all that I've found so far. As I find more or if anybody contributes info to the thread I'll edit it into the list.
edit 24 May 2020: Now that I have built up a fair amount of Canton speaker schematics, and since questions have come up in the speaker forum about coil values, I am taking advantage of the Subscriber privilege of being able to edit posts and will be adding crossover coils below this note.
The coil values in Canton crossover schematics are actually easy to figure out because the values are incorporated into the item nomenclature ("Benennung") shown in the parts list.
The first number I believe to be either the coil height or diameter but I can not confirm that yet.
The second number is the mH value.
The 3rd number is the wire diameter in mm (and not DC resistance as I had previously thought).
Coils are known as a "Drossel" (choke) in the schematic parts list. Coil names that start with "FK" are "Ferrit-Glockenkern" = ferrite-bell-core coils. All others without a letter prefix are air-core coils. I will be listing the air-core and ferrite-core items separately for clarity. There are also coils id'd as "SK", denoting "StiftKernspulen" = ferrite-bar coil and "PK" are "Ferrit-Pilzkern" = ferrite-mushroom-core coils
Note that when a comma appears in a number in a German schematic it is the same as a decimal point in a USA number.
edit 26-July-2020: I have just learned that I have been wrong concerning the 3rd number in the coil part nomenclature. It represents the wire diameter in mm and not resistance as I had previously thought! I am editing all entries to reflect this. Now I just have to track down every damn post that I have made in every Canton thread concerning this and correct them.
Air-core coils:
1156 =
1168 = 2-025-06 = 0.25mH / 0.6 mm.
1179 = 2-053-06 = 0.53mH / 0.6 mm.
1181 = 2-016-06 = 0.16mH / 0.6 mm.
1320 = 2-032-06 = 0.32mH / 0.6 mm.
1321 = 2-055-06 = 0.55mH / 0.6 mm.
1549 =
2096 = 2-048-06 = 0.48mH / 0.6 mm.
2097 = 2-034-06 = 0.34mH / 0.6 mm.
2267 = 7-320-16 = 3.20mH / 1.6 mm.
2531 =
2546 =
2603 =
2604 = 1-014-06 = 0.14mH / 0.6 mm.
2673 = 2-022-06 = 0.22mH / 0.6 mm.
2799 = 6-327-16 = 3.27mH / 1.6 mm.
2799 = 6-350-13 = 3.50mH / 1.3 mm.
2804 = 3-065-085 = 0.65mH / 0.85 mm.
2805 = 2-040-06 = 0.40mH / 0.6 mm.
2806 = 1-030-05 = 0.30mH / 0.5 mm.
2807 = 1-022-05 = 0.22mH / 0.5 mm.
2883 = 2-028-06 = 0.28mH / 0.6 mm.
3067 = 1-011-06 = 0.11mH / 0.6 mm.
3204 = 2-065-06 = 0.65mH / 0.6 mm.
3205 =
3258 = 2-052-06 = 0.52mH / 0.6 mm.
3310 = 2-050-06 = 0.50mH / 0.6 mm.
4914 = 2-0135-06 = 0.135mH / 0.6 mm.
6007 = 2-020-06 = 0.20mH / 0.6 mm.
6591 = 3-040-0.71 = 0.40mH / 0.71 mm.
FK Ferrite-bell-core coils:
1305 = FK36-060-10 = 0.60mH / 1.0 mm.
1401 = FK36-110-09 = 1.10mH / 0.9 mm.
1404 = FK52-280-1,0 = 2.80mH / 1.0 mm.
1873 = FK36-235-071 = 2.35mH / 0.71 mm.
2810 = FK36-217-071 = 2.17mH / 0.71 mm.
2862 = FK36-068-1,0 = 0.68mH / 1.0 mm.
2785 = FK36-132-0,9 = 1.32mH / 0.9 mm.
2908 =
3000 = FK52-350-10 = 3.50mH / 1.0 mm.
3062 = FK36-142-09 = 1.42mH / 0.9 mm.
3257 = FK52-165-12 = 1.65mH / 1.2 mm.
3309 = FK52-210-1,12 = 2.10mH / 1.12 mm.
3374 = FK52-140-1,32 = 1.40mH / 1.32 mm.
3483 = FK52-320-10 = 3.20mH / 1.0 mm.
3689 = FK26-026-071 = 0.26mH / 0.71 mm.
4731 = FK52-470-09 = 470mH / 0.9 mm.
4824 = FK52-190-1,12 = 1.90mH / 1.12 mm.
4875 = FK52-110-? = 1.1mH / ?
PK Ferrite-mushroom-core coils:
2253 = PK 40-090-1.12 = 0.9mH / 1.12mm.
3000 = PK 40-350-0,85 = 3.50mH / 0.85mm.
4875 = PK 40-110-1.12 = 1.1mH / 1.12mm.
SK Ferrite-bar core coils:
1025 = SK7-320-1.32 = 3.3mH / 1.32 mm.
Other general notes for English speaking people concerning reading Canton crossover sheets:
"Schaltbild" means Schematic.
"Netzwerke" refers to the part number for the complete crossover.
Hochtöner = Tweeter.
Mitteltöner = Midrange.
Tieftöner = Woofer.
The field where "Zuschnitt" parts are identified refers to the quantity and size of the fiberglass damping sheets in the cabinets. They seem to be generally about 40mm thick from what I have seen, but that is not stated.
"Kondens." = Capacitor (short form).
"Widerstand" means Resistor.
Where an asterix (*) appears in a part description with the statement "wahlweise für:" it means that the choices can be substituted for the noted item.
Cheers,
James
Measuring the old caps isn't always useful as some of the caps were made to specific non-standard values (such as 120µF) and the ones that I've measured have been universally high (such as 139µF for that 120µF cap) so one doesn't really know which way to guess.
So I've been scouring the web for info and here is a list of what I've found so far, mostly from people posting in German forums that got a reply from Canton. The number is the part number printed on the caps.
Note that when reading Canton schematics electrolytic caps are identified in the parts list as "Kondens.El xxx" and foil caps as "Kondens.Fo". Foil caps id's as "ITT" are the oval vellow bodied caps used in early speakers such as the "LE" series. Where the info is available the lead spacing on foil caps is included. There is also a "Kondens. EV" identification that I haven't quite figured out yet.
Electrolytic capacitors:
1101 = 82µF/23vac
1102 = 22µF/23vac
1104 = 5.6µF/40vac
1170 = 68µF/23vac
1182 = 56µF/35vac
1183 = 15µF/35vac
1228 = 39µF/23vac
1317 = 5.6µF/35vac
1319 = 1.5µF/100v
1465 = 5.6µF
1467 = 10µF
1551 = 3.3µF/23vac (one reference stated 35vac)
1610 = 200µF
1611 = 6.8µF/100v
1615 = 120µF/35vac
1664 = 100µF/35vac
1882 = 4.7µF/35vac
2103 = 10µF/60vac
2379 = 15µF/23vac
2381 = 12µF/40vac
2424 = 33µF/23vac
2520 = 47µF/35vac
2525 = 8.2µF100v
2571 = 80µF/35vac
2695 = 69µF/35vac
2710 = 30µF/15vac
2793 = 10µF/25vac
2800 = 56µF/23vac
2801 = 47µF/23vac
2856 = 4.7µF
2893 = 100µF/23vac
2897 = 2.2µF
2902 = 3.3µF/70vac
3091 = 47µF/23vac
3092 = ? Measured a cap 3 times and got 81.7µF, 81.9µF and 82µF. 15vac printed on cap.
3098 = 18µF/25vac
3100 = 82µF/20vac
3384 = 33µF/23vac
3690 = 8.2µF/23vac
3692 = 10µF/23vac
3766 = 220µF/23vac
3779 = 6.8µF/23vac
4340 = 1000µF
5172 = 12µF
5624 = 82µF/35vac
5668 = 18µF
5935 = 82µF
6440 = 470µF
6447 = 15µF
EV Capacitors:
5875 = 56µF/23vac
MKT Foil capacitors:
1319 = 1.5µF/100v
1465 = 5.6µF/100v (lead spacing 27.5mm)
1467 = 10µF/100v
1611 = 6.8µF/100v
1882 = 4,7µF/60v (lead spacing 27.5mm)
2103 = 10µF/100v (ITT)
2390 = 100µF/100v
2391 = 68µF/100v
2393 = 47µF/100v
2525 = 8.2µF/100v
2525 = 8.2µF/100v (ITT)
2668 = 12µF/100v (ITT)
2794 = 18µF/100v
2856 = 4.7µF/100v (lead spacing 27.5mm)
2897 = 2.2µF/100v (lead spacing 22..5mm)
3375 = 1.0µF/100v (lead spacing 15mm)
5170 = 3.0µF/100v
5260 = 3.9µF/100v
5427 = 22µF/100v
5868 = 18µF/100v
These are all that I've found so far. As I find more or if anybody contributes info to the thread I'll edit it into the list.
edit 24 May 2020: Now that I have built up a fair amount of Canton speaker schematics, and since questions have come up in the speaker forum about coil values, I am taking advantage of the Subscriber privilege of being able to edit posts and will be adding crossover coils below this note.
The coil values in Canton crossover schematics are actually easy to figure out because the values are incorporated into the item nomenclature ("Benennung") shown in the parts list.
The first number I believe to be either the coil height or diameter but I can not confirm that yet.
The second number is the mH value.
The 3rd number is the wire diameter in mm (and not DC resistance as I had previously thought).
Coils are known as a "Drossel" (choke) in the schematic parts list. Coil names that start with "FK" are "Ferrit-Glockenkern" = ferrite-bell-core coils. All others without a letter prefix are air-core coils. I will be listing the air-core and ferrite-core items separately for clarity. There are also coils id'd as "SK", denoting "StiftKernspulen" = ferrite-bar coil and "PK" are "Ferrit-Pilzkern" = ferrite-mushroom-core coils
Note that when a comma appears in a number in a German schematic it is the same as a decimal point in a USA number.
edit 26-July-2020: I have just learned that I have been wrong concerning the 3rd number in the coil part nomenclature. It represents the wire diameter in mm and not resistance as I had previously thought! I am editing all entries to reflect this. Now I just have to track down every damn post that I have made in every Canton thread concerning this and correct them.
Air-core coils:
1156 =
1168 = 2-025-06 = 0.25mH / 0.6 mm.
1179 = 2-053-06 = 0.53mH / 0.6 mm.
1181 = 2-016-06 = 0.16mH / 0.6 mm.
1320 = 2-032-06 = 0.32mH / 0.6 mm.
1321 = 2-055-06 = 0.55mH / 0.6 mm.
1549 =
2096 = 2-048-06 = 0.48mH / 0.6 mm.
2097 = 2-034-06 = 0.34mH / 0.6 mm.
2267 = 7-320-16 = 3.20mH / 1.6 mm.
2531 =
2546 =
2603 =
2604 = 1-014-06 = 0.14mH / 0.6 mm.
2673 = 2-022-06 = 0.22mH / 0.6 mm.
2799 = 6-327-16 = 3.27mH / 1.6 mm.
2799 = 6-350-13 = 3.50mH / 1.3 mm.
2804 = 3-065-085 = 0.65mH / 0.85 mm.
2805 = 2-040-06 = 0.40mH / 0.6 mm.
2806 = 1-030-05 = 0.30mH / 0.5 mm.
2807 = 1-022-05 = 0.22mH / 0.5 mm.
2883 = 2-028-06 = 0.28mH / 0.6 mm.
3067 = 1-011-06 = 0.11mH / 0.6 mm.
3204 = 2-065-06 = 0.65mH / 0.6 mm.
3205 =
3258 = 2-052-06 = 0.52mH / 0.6 mm.
3310 = 2-050-06 = 0.50mH / 0.6 mm.
4914 = 2-0135-06 = 0.135mH / 0.6 mm.
6007 = 2-020-06 = 0.20mH / 0.6 mm.
6591 = 3-040-0.71 = 0.40mH / 0.71 mm.
FK Ferrite-bell-core coils:
1305 = FK36-060-10 = 0.60mH / 1.0 mm.
1401 = FK36-110-09 = 1.10mH / 0.9 mm.
1404 = FK52-280-1,0 = 2.80mH / 1.0 mm.
1873 = FK36-235-071 = 2.35mH / 0.71 mm.
2810 = FK36-217-071 = 2.17mH / 0.71 mm.
2862 = FK36-068-1,0 = 0.68mH / 1.0 mm.
2785 = FK36-132-0,9 = 1.32mH / 0.9 mm.
2908 =
3000 = FK52-350-10 = 3.50mH / 1.0 mm.
3062 = FK36-142-09 = 1.42mH / 0.9 mm.
3257 = FK52-165-12 = 1.65mH / 1.2 mm.
3309 = FK52-210-1,12 = 2.10mH / 1.12 mm.
3374 = FK52-140-1,32 = 1.40mH / 1.32 mm.
3483 = FK52-320-10 = 3.20mH / 1.0 mm.
3689 = FK26-026-071 = 0.26mH / 0.71 mm.
4731 = FK52-470-09 = 470mH / 0.9 mm.
4824 = FK52-190-1,12 = 1.90mH / 1.12 mm.
4875 = FK52-110-? = 1.1mH / ?
PK Ferrite-mushroom-core coils:
2253 = PK 40-090-1.12 = 0.9mH / 1.12mm.
3000 = PK 40-350-0,85 = 3.50mH / 0.85mm.
4875 = PK 40-110-1.12 = 1.1mH / 1.12mm.
SK Ferrite-bar core coils:
1025 = SK7-320-1.32 = 3.3mH / 1.32 mm.
Other general notes for English speaking people concerning reading Canton crossover sheets:
"Schaltbild" means Schematic.
"Netzwerke" refers to the part number for the complete crossover.
Hochtöner = Tweeter.
Mitteltöner = Midrange.
Tieftöner = Woofer.
The field where "Zuschnitt" parts are identified refers to the quantity and size of the fiberglass damping sheets in the cabinets. They seem to be generally about 40mm thick from what I have seen, but that is not stated.
"Kondens." = Capacitor (short form).
"Widerstand" means Resistor.
Where an asterix (*) appears in a part description with the statement "wahlweise für:" it means that the choices can be substituted for the noted item.
Cheers,
James
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