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Discussion in 'Digital Sources' started by vintage 5.0, May 4, 2018.

  1. sberger

    sberger Hard Core Geezer Subscriber

    Since getting a DAC, and even though I've ripped over 2000 cd's to FLAC and stream often, I have started to play single cd's again. The DAC has improved the sound of the CD, and I actually like listening to single cd's again. I do tend to listen more seriously when it's just a single cd.
     

     

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  2. Mlistens03

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    I prefer physical media. I don't know why, but I think it gives me more appreciation for the music. and, with vinyl, it's the one obsession that I have and greatly enjoy, even though it is just monotonous work to clean records. CDs to me are a more casual vinyl when I don't have time for dusting, flipping sides, having to be careful about walking lightly, etc.
     
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  3. Djcoolray

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    With streaming you have to depend on the Internet, without the internet what do you have. With equipment, CD’s, LP’s and electric generation equipment or even solar panels life continues.
     
  4. GChief

    GChief Not well known, super member or other silliness Subscriber

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    I have my LP’s (Primary) as you suggested. Since my streaming sounds as good or better than then my CD’s everytime, plus working with a listening space less the 50sqft the CD’s have to go (for the 2nd time). For someone in my situation that doesn’t want any physical media to save space, properly set up streaming is a no brainer IMHO.
    :beerchug:
     
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  5. E-Stat

    E-Stat AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Streaming can also refer to sourcing digital content from your own PC/server which has replaced CD playback for me. Internet not required!
     
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  6. Alobar

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    Well I guess I could take them off your hands for you.. :biggrin:
     

     

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  7. Alobar

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    Well yeah, in that case I'm a streamer too!
     
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  8. cpt_paranoia

    cpt_paranoia Well-Known Member

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    "You may say I'm a streamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope some day you'll join us, and the world will stream as one"...
     
  9. Alobar

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    And may all our prostrates be of good health so we can stream on into perpetuity!
     
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  10. E-Stat

    E-Stat AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    In the bad old days, I needed to make duplicates of CDs for different systems. I'm down to one that requires physical media now - a 2001 Honda with a six disc changer in the trunk. Music servers allow for a central digital library that can be shared by multiple systems without having to make copies or sneakernet them about your manse.

    Each system - Main/HT/Garage/Office/iPad in bedroom - can access my digital library. Simultaneously playing different music if desired. Or, for the two Roku players, video content.
     
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  11. Bill Ferris

    Bill Ferris Super Member

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    :thumbsup:, :bigok:, :beerchug: =:music:
     
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  12. Djcoolray

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    True....

    I consider the home PC equipment !!
     
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  13. E-Stat

    E-Stat AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I boxed all my CDs and provided them to the local library on "permanent loan". Useless to me.

    I'd rather spend more time listening than disc shuffling. :)
     
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  14. Alobar

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    I haven't sent my CD's to the library yet but that might be a good idea.
    There are many things I like about the CD as a vehicle to get the files to my NAS drive, but otherwise never touch them again.

    I have always liked a mixed or random play, even back in the LP days with reel to reel, and even an accutrack TT. Now I have my entire collection literally at my finger tips and the remote control is a wireless mouse that sits on the arm of my listening chair, and the flat screen TV with jriver on it.

    This, while simple to use is very robust with features to play exactly what I want to hear at any time. Playing smartlists and I get a whim for something else I just select the track, album, playlist, artist or whatever and then add them to the currehtly playing now list with all sorts of options as to where to add the additional tracks, from next to randomized.

    It's part of the fun of listening but playing randomized lists that have to be manually added like the typical streaming outfit is a chore to create and since there is no effective volume leveling features the volume has to be adjusted track to track which when random is always different. And while I know volume leveling carries a very slight hit in sq due to slight digital adjusting of the music output, I can't hear a difference and the music is always very close to each other output wise.

    I don't think streaming has such capabilities but it might if it could be ran through a quality media player. I haven't tried all the streaming outfits but the ones that I did had the output level all over the place.

    For me, streaming from one of the commercial outfits are fine for background listening or discovery, but to have my whole music collection tied to an online company likely will never happen with me.

    40 million tracks is a draw until I think about how 95% of all music is crap (to me). That still leaves a lot I like but without the tools to find it, get it organized, and trust that all my music is safe from all sorts of company changes and bankruptcy, takeovers etc always being a concern, I'll be keeping all my music on a backed up NAS drive.
     
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  15. cpt_paranoia

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    Auto-DJ is my saviour...
     
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  16. GChief

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  17. E-Stat

    E-Stat AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Agree. I have a lot of analog and digital content at various resolutions unavailable by subscription.
     
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  18. +48V

    +48V hi-fi or die

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    Spotify has volume leveling. :) FWIW
     
  19. Alobar

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    Interesting, I didn't recall that when I was a subscriber.

    I wonder how they pull it off, if it is just attenuating the highest passages or if it is like jriver where each track is scanned and a Dynamic Range (R128) is determined and when played in a list the highest output (whole track) is throttled back to equal the lowest output track, so no dynamic range is lost from track to track.

    This volume leveling feature has been a godsend to me as I never have to hear my wife yell at me to turn it down.
     
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  20. cpt_paranoia

    cpt_paranoia Well-Known Member

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    I'd imagine they are using a track gain setting, just like most media manager/players. That gain setting is then supplied to the playback app as part of the file metadata preamble in the stream, and used to scale all streamed samples, or set hardware gain, depending on the capabilities of the target renderer.

    That's what I'd do...
     

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