Choosing MA252 vs. MA5300 / MA7200?

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  1. ericedelman

    ericedelman New Member

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    I am planning to purchase either the MA252 or MA5300 / MA7200 for a 2 channel system to power a set of Klipsch Cornwall speakers.

    I would like to connect the McIntosh MT5 turntable, a Bluesound Node 2, and my TV / cable box to the amplifier as well. We listen to classic rock, folk, some country, a little modern pop.

    Is there a compelling reason to pick the MA252 over the MA5300? Is the MA7200 overkill for the Cornwalls?

    Appreciate any insights / advice.
     

     

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  2. JWJW

    JWJW Bun E. Carlos

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    I love my 252. :)
     
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  4. JWJW

    JWJW Bun E. Carlos

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    The 252 would be plenty for your Corns. A match made in Mc heaven....
     
  5. gregswaim

    gregswaim Neutral Organic Sound

    Tube amplification with your vintage Klipsch Cornwalls will sound best- in my opinion. Those speakers are very high efficiency and don't require much power. Tubes with those speakers will give a more natural sound vs solid state. Again, just my opinion. :)
     
  6. Macallan

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    I am looking at the same integrateds the MA252 vs the MA7200, i have the Martin Logan Ethos speaker. What would be the pros/cons of each set up.

    MA/252 (cheaper, Tube front end+) Direct Coupled (is this better or worse for Ethos?)
    MA7200 (more expensive, DAC section +, Autoformers (is this better or worse for Ethos?)
     

     

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  7. eedork

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    If it were me I'd go with the MA7200. I had an MA6600 for many years and it was excellent. The MA7200 should be even better because it has an excellent onboard DAC and many new preamp features that the MA6600 lacked, including an excellent MM/MC phono stage, headphone HXD, HT passthru, and more input naming flexibility.

    The MA5300 is also very interesting. No autoformers and less power than the MA7200, but it should be otherwise very similar. The MA5300 sees like a real bargain.

    -Matt
     
  8. TSmith8605

    TSmith8605 Senile Member Subscriber

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    Both the MA5300 and MA7200 have digital inputs which means they include a built-in DAC. If you're TV cable box has a digital audio output (I don't mean HDMI, I mean coax or optical audio only), you could use that into one of these two and likely get superior sound from the TV using the McIntosh built-in DAC.

    The Bluesound also has a built-in DAC and digital output. I that case the McIntosh DAC might also sound better than the Bluesound DAC; you could experiment to see.

    With the MA252, you would be using the DAC built into the cable box which is likely pretty cheap. But you could get the MA252 and if you don't like the TV (or even the Bluesound) DAC sound, you could buy a nice external DAC.
     
  9. Macallan

    Macallan New Member

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    I have he Channel Islands VDA-2 Dac so based solely on the preamp / amp would the ma252 be better with the Logan’s? They are have powered bass.
     
  10. eedork

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    The MA7200 should be much more stout than the MA252. My MA6600 was a beast and sounded great.

    -Matt
     
  11. TSmith8605

    TSmith8605 Senile Member Subscriber

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    I found a handy tool that will let you answer this (how much power you need for the Logans) quantitatively - or at least get you close.

    If you know the speakers sensitivity (dB at one meter driven by 1 Watt), how far you sit from the speakers in meters, and how loud you want the music in dB, this tool will tell you how much power you need. You can also experiment to see how loud it will go given the power level from an amp.

    I recommend adding about 10 dB for Amplifier headroom: https://www.crownaudio.com/en-US/tools/calculators#amp_power_required
     

     

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  12. Donny

    Donny Big Damn Hero

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    I am new to McIntosh so I haven't heard the other amps. I will say this. I love my ma252. For me it's only downfall is a lack of pre in and out. the ma 252 seems to be a hot item. While I was speaker shopping over the weekend I met another happy 252 owner and another person considering buying a 252
     
  13. Anup Roy

    Anup Roy New Member

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    I have a similar question. am stuck between MA252 and MA5300. I already have a auralic vega DAC. http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/auralic-vega-digital-audio-processor-1/. I may sell my DAC for some money and get the MA5300. So price wise its kinda similar for me. But from sound perspective which will be better? I have quad 23L speakers. And is there a way I can drive my sub too ( velodyne 10) in the MA5300? I listen to bollywood mostly ( which is a mix of all genres), country and modern pop. I like warm music and not much of a fan of treble ( or sharp music).
     
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