westend
Audiopile
Thank you.
DIY Folded-Horn Speaker Design from 1955
- Thread starter Wigwam Jones
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Yankee Dog
Well-Known Member
Thanks, but the thing is, I am not using firefox. Never had it. I have IE, latest version. :scratch2: YD
wilberforce
Active Member
Makes sense to me, and I've been loving these Popular Mechanics links you've been finding.
I've been involved with audio for years as a musician, but just for a year or so on the DIY side. I'm still a nephyte, but there are a ton of generous people on this site and others that are happy to share their expertise.
AND, horn enclosures sound cool. The center speaker in my avatar is an old Jensen designed cabinet from 1952, a 'compact' rear loading folded horn. Thanks to Zilch and a lot of other people here and diyaudio.com, we frankensteined it into an amazing sounding fusion of 50's and 21st century technology. (zilch-modifed econowave crossover, selenium 220i, QSC waveguide, JBL 2220).
My advice: Build one. There are a ton of good full range drivers available for not that much money. Just watch out for efficiency--some of the drivers are very inefficient, not that great if you're running a low wattage tube amp. Play some mono stuff through it. If you love it, build a companion for it. If you don't love it, you will have had some fun and learned some things.
Horn enclosures sound so different from the normal box bass reflex ported speaker.
Wigwam Jones
Caesar non supra grammati
Here's a few more speaker plans:
http://books.google.com/books?id=S9...peakers&pg=PA173#v=onepage&q=speakers&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=S9...peakers&pg=PA173#v=onepage&q=speakers&f=false
Yankee Dog
Well-Known Member
OK, for some reason, the link loaded for me this morning. Thanks for the link. Is there a way to save the article? I wanna build this!
dnewma04
The Healer
Wiggy, the Galaxy Audio driver is quite...umm...not good.
Stick with a known commodity here, something like Fostex is probably where you wanting to be setting your targets.. If sensitivity is not a huge issue for you, the Zaph Audio 5" driver may be just the ticket.
I think your expectations will probably be about right. I wouldn't count on something special, but it might sound decent.
Stick with a known commodity here, something like Fostex is probably where you wanting to be setting your targets.. If sensitivity is not a huge issue for you, the Zaph Audio 5" driver may be just the ticket.
I think your expectations will probably be about right. I wouldn't count on something special, but it might sound decent.
Wigwam Jones
Caesar non supra grammati
Thanks, that's what I need to know! I realize that like with cars where speed costs money, good speaker drivers cost money for a good reason, generally. I'll keep and eye on the budget and check the specs with you guys; you're great and this is why.
voltcontrol
Fizheuer Zieheuer
Nice poject, a shame there is no info on the original driver (just browsed the article).
This is a very nice 5" FR driver btw, but perhaps a bit to expensive fir this project?
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-898
If I was starting a cheap FR project in the US i'd try this one btw;
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=292-430
This is a very nice 5" FR driver btw, but perhaps a bit to expensive fir this project?
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-898
If I was starting a cheap FR project in the US i'd try this one btw;
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=292-430
Zach C.
Active Member
If you're looking to get your hands dirty, and try something new in the folded horn area, you might want to try your own design using:
http://www.hornresp.net.ms/
Also, though I'm not really a "full range" guy myself, I would suggest looking at the Tang Band full rangers at PE. They are pretty well received. The other place you may want to look, if you're going to do your own thing, is the Madisound specials page. They have a number of Aura full rang drivers right now- priced right. These are nice drivers, and for $4.00 would offer a great opportunity to experiment without dropping the coin on some decidedly spendy Fostex. There's also the new line of Dayton PS (point source) drivers.
I think somebody already mentioned this, but zaphaudio.com has some good measurements on a few full rangers, as I recall.
Have Fun,
Zach
Wigwam Jones
Caesar non supra grammati
Not that I am aware of, but you can print it out (I think); or alternatively, look for that issue on eBay.
dnewma04
The Healer
I didn't mention Zaph's measurements I mentioned his drivers he copied from Merrill's DCA5.5 (i think that was the model). They have some minor changes from the original and sound quite good with surprising bass extension. The typical 8-10k full range peak to mask the lack of real high freq extension is there and gives the illusion of good highs.
At a smac meet, we listened to a set built by Fritz and most people were quite pleased with the sound. Only a couple of times did the peak jump out at you as a negative thing.
At a smac meet, we listened to a set built by Fritz and most people were quite pleased with the sound. Only a couple of times did the peak jump out at you as a negative thing.
Hey Wiggy, if you like to try simple full range builds, here are a couple (note I have not heard these they just look like fun)
http://www.visaton.com/en/bauvorschlaege/breitband/noboxbb/index.html and
http://www.visaton.com/en/bauvorschlaege/breitband/solo50/index.html and
http://www.quarter-wave.com/Project08/Passive_Crossover.pdf
Food for thought eh!
http://www.visaton.com/en/bauvorschlaege/breitband/noboxbb/index.html and
http://www.visaton.com/en/bauvorschlaege/breitband/solo50/index.html and
http://www.quarter-wave.com/Project08/Passive_Crossover.pdf
Food for thought eh!
shelly_d
Not An Audiophool
The stream apparently had been blocked or at least it has to my work location.
Edit:
Blocked to my home as well. Also tried on YouTube itself with same results.
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45rpmspinner
Super Member
They do look very nice. They're the Popular Mechanics design? The reason I ask is because the front baffle isn't recessed [probably a bad idea anyway].
Would be nice to hear them. I think your video is blocked on the basis of the song you chose. Perhaps try another tune?
centinela
New Member
I was doing the tests they recommend on this page https://www.cambridgeaudio.com/usa/es/node/424 , I even compared them with some qsc that I am modifying, the qsc do not have substance and neither have depth, with these of popular mechanics you can not stay still, it is as if the music got you in the bones
45rpmspinner
Super Member
Very nice Centinela. Thanks for posting the second clip.
