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Do some audiophiles really prefer flat frequency response?

Discussion in 'General Audio Discussion' started by Extremesam, Jun 11, 2018.

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  1. E-Stat

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    I can think of only one - D'Agostino.
     
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  2. bobins08

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    My take.

    1. Most equalizers I’ve seen change the sound when set to flat/bypass. This observation is a negative to me.

    2. Equalizers are supposed to by used to compensate for the room. If I had equipment to make room measurements then I might consider one, but probably would prefer to rely on room treatments and speaker placement like I do now.

    3. My best gear does not have tone controls, not even a bypass switch. I just don’t miss them and prefer the equipment be designed with cost spent on better parts and less complexity.

    4. Since I can tailor my sound with preamp tube selection, phono cartridge selection, etc, I don’t assume I am listening to a flat response just because I have no tone controls. Other components factor into the overall sound too.

    Cheers!
     
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    Is that their flagship/ TOTL?

    Tone Controls?
    Just in case you missed it, the Momentum has tone controls: Bass and Treble. You remember those from the old days, don't you? Their range of adjustability is ±6dB, but the instruction manual doesn't provide a plot of their active bandwidths. Nonetheless, I attempted to repair the damage MoFi had done to The Beatles. When I reduced the bass by –3dB and the treble by –4dB, up (relatively) came the midrange, restoring much of the better tonal balance found on the original release. The midrange was still a bit thin, but overall, it made the boxed set far more listenable and truer to the original.

    Mostly, though, I listened without using the tone controls, so rich, lush, and perfectly aggressive and edgy—when so required by the recording—was the sound of the D'Agostino Momentum. Analogue Productions' vinyl reissues of RCA Living Stereo recordings, mastered directly from the three-track tapes by Ryan K. Smith, revealed just how remarkable was the Momentum's sound—or the lack thereof.


    In other words, bells and whistles, the fix was better media
     
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    You answered the question below.
     
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    No I didn't, again is that Momentum preamp D'Agostino Flagship preamp?
     
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    Click the link I provided for the answer. Or, simply hover over the URL. :)
     
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    That site sucks, I could not find a line up of equipment ie: pecking order. Why the games I ask you a question, yes or no will be fine.

    Is that supposed to be their TOTL flagship preamp?
     
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    Call Dan and complain about his website.

    Sorry, I thought the obvious would be sufficient. :)

    I think you'll find that $32k is as good as it gets for them.
     
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    That is one ugly preamp, with the caveat that beauty is in the eye...

    looks like a big boiler gauge mounted on the front.
     
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    Yes I know what the list price is, that doesn't mean it's their flagship, witch was my question.
     
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    I agree, when looking at it I though a kitchen faucet should be mounted on the front of it.
     
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    Is that the new Panni press I have been hearing about?

    ;) :D
     
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    Yeah but that one does espresso also:biggrin:
     
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    Don’t get me wrong I am cool with how it looks! But our tiny house is industrial kinda steampunk mid century modern.

    :beerchug:
     
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    2nd update: still weening myself off the loudness button as per this thread with good results. Definitely was missing some midrange with it engaged. Once I got over the diminished bass, it actually sounds quite pleasant and more balanced.
     
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    I read all about it. It's a steam-powered preamp.

    Really, I'm sure the sound is great, but it's cosmetic design isn't my cuppa.
     
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    Isn’t Kool Aid tasty :smoke:

    :beerchug:
     
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    Did you say you have book shelf speakers? If so try them on the floor and make a triangle with them and your seating.
     
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    Are you missing the embedded links I provide?
     
  20. corbin

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    Despite my sig, I'm currently listening to BA A150s against the wall as recommended. My listening setup is really far from ideal, it's pretty much near-field with a big desk in the middle.
     
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