desertrat748
Super Member
Starting this thread to help those who may be purchasing a 2000 style blob body and not knowing what stylus to use for it. Empire seemed to add model numbers to these bodies without any clear thought process or reasoning. It's mindboggling to try and make sense of it. But as suggested by others, it's easiest to separate them into different categories based on inductance/resistance.
For example Empire 66 bodies all have around 330 mH and 500-600 ohms. The 66 bodies work best with a 239-PDE (purple) stylus, orig. part number S910E. 2000 E bodies have higher inductance/resistance near 1000 ohms and work best with the 237-DET (clear or translucent blue) stylus, orig. part number S2000E/III.
The 2000Z type bodies all have higher inductance/resistance around 1250 ohms and only work with the smaller shank stylus like 237 DEZ or 239 DET (which won't work with any other body type). Hope this helps with knowing what is what with Empire & the Blob carts.
Feel free to copy the body of info to add to it, edit, or make corrections. If you post new info. I'll edit and add to this original start until we come up with a very thorough list. (Note: I don't know what to do with the 4000 bodies as I don't have one to measure resistance. Any help/suggestions are welcome. Maybe a 4th type?)
Here’s what I’ve got so far actually measured out that match up with one of the three types :
2000 bodies 1000-1100 ohms ~ 650mH: 2000 e/i 2000e/ii 2000e/iii all about 1100 ohms, 2200E/III 680mH 1040 ohms, 845QE/D 675mH 1120 ohms, 1000 SE/X 1070 ohms 630mH
2005 QX 1050ohms 610mH,
66 bodies 500-600 ohms, ~ 350 mH: 66/ex 300mH-600 ohms, exl-20 505 ohms, exl-20 improved 490 ohms, 2003 AE/X 515 ohms, 99XE/X 320mH 530 ohms,1000 E/X 340mH,2000 ME/X III 340mH, 3000 ME/X 350mH, 2000 QX 340mH,
4000 bodies ~400-500 ohms: ~250mH: 4000-XL1 320mH, 4000XL-III 530 ohms, SE9900 265mH, 2000X (4000 used for stereo w fancy red metallic stylus) 430ohms 220mH ,
2000Z bodies 1200-1300 ohms: 2008 1260 ohms, exl-30 1255 ohms, 3000AV 770mH-1200 ohms
ODDBALLS FOUND GO HERE: Low inductance 250mH-350mH, 4000 or 66 clone, mid inductance 650 mH 2000E clone, high inductance 800mH or higher 2000Z clone:
2000E/iii oddball 533ohms 233mH, 2000 oddball 930 ohms 256mH,
http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?attachments/img_20180628_105505220-jpg.1222440/
Please consider adding to the list to help out.
DR
For example Empire 66 bodies all have around 330 mH and 500-600 ohms. The 66 bodies work best with a 239-PDE (purple) stylus, orig. part number S910E. 2000 E bodies have higher inductance/resistance near 1000 ohms and work best with the 237-DET (clear or translucent blue) stylus, orig. part number S2000E/III.
The 2000Z type bodies all have higher inductance/resistance around 1250 ohms and only work with the smaller shank stylus like 237 DEZ or 239 DET (which won't work with any other body type). Hope this helps with knowing what is what with Empire & the Blob carts.
Feel free to copy the body of info to add to it, edit, or make corrections. If you post new info. I'll edit and add to this original start until we come up with a very thorough list. (Note: I don't know what to do with the 4000 bodies as I don't have one to measure resistance. Any help/suggestions are welcome. Maybe a 4th type?)
Here’s what I’ve got so far actually measured out that match up with one of the three types :
2000 bodies 1000-1100 ohms ~ 650mH: 2000 e/i 2000e/ii 2000e/iii all about 1100 ohms, 2200E/III 680mH 1040 ohms, 845QE/D 675mH 1120 ohms, 1000 SE/X 1070 ohms 630mH
2005 QX 1050ohms 610mH,
66 bodies 500-600 ohms, ~ 350 mH: 66/ex 300mH-600 ohms, exl-20 505 ohms, exl-20 improved 490 ohms, 2003 AE/X 515 ohms, 99XE/X 320mH 530 ohms,1000 E/X 340mH,2000 ME/X III 340mH, 3000 ME/X 350mH, 2000 QX 340mH,
4000 bodies ~400-500 ohms: ~250mH: 4000-XL1 320mH, 4000XL-III 530 ohms, SE9900 265mH, 2000X (4000 used for stereo w fancy red metallic stylus) 430ohms 220mH ,
2000Z bodies 1200-1300 ohms: 2008 1260 ohms, exl-30 1255 ohms, 3000AV 770mH-1200 ohms
ODDBALLS FOUND GO HERE: Low inductance 250mH-350mH, 4000 or 66 clone, mid inductance 650 mH 2000E clone, high inductance 800mH or higher 2000Z clone:
2000E/iii oddball 533ohms 233mH, 2000 oddball 930 ohms 256mH,
http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?attachments/img_20180628_105505220-jpg.1222440/
Please consider adding to the list to help out.
DR
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