guitar (or bass, or whatever) effects

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  1. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    I think there's a website, or there used to be dedicated to modding these. But I like them as is. Still can find them though the prices shot up some years back when players discovered how good they are. Definitely a nice addition to the arsenal.
     
  2. marqueemoon

    marqueemoon Gimme indie rock!

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    Picked up the RV-6 yesterday and slapped this together. Really happy with it so far. The modulated sound is my favorite, but dynamic is cool, and the + delay setting will cover the delay base just fine.
     
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  3. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    Nice to see David Barber pedals on your board. And two of his best. Back in the day - - 2002/2003 -- a lot of these guys were just getting traction and places like the old MusicToyz pedal forum was a frequent hang out for Barber, George Blekas, Bob McBroom (the Pedalworx guys), Joe Gagan who did the NVN line of pedals, Bjorn Juhl with his incredible BJF pedals and slew of others like GS Wyllie (Moonrock Fuzz), Paul Cochrane (Tim, Timmy), Nicholas Harris (Catalinbread) and Sean Lovepedal to name but a few. Not all were successful businessmen or could make a go of it like Wampler did, but lots of creative designs. Then there was the 3MS / 4MS "consortium" who designed and created some of the wackiest pedals ever conceived. Like these. Btw, if you ever come across a Guyatone Mini Reverb grab it. A true gem.

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  4. marqueemoon

    marqueemoon Gimme indie rock!

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    ^Pedals that make your guitar sound like a messed up synth are in again. I for one am not into it.

    I really like those Barber pedals. I wish they were smaller. The Direct Drive is a weird one. In the right situation it's the best thing ever, but it definitely does not work in my current band.

    I tried out for a side project a while ago and will probably play with them again (using the above setup) once they figure their drummer situation out. The singer also plays in a shoegaze band and has a huge board. Not going to try to complete with that though.
     
  5. john111/LZ

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    Anyone fond of the old Quadraverb GT?
     
  6. marqueemoon

    marqueemoon Gimme indie rock!

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    Billy Cardigan for President!
     
  7. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    They were very popular units and a lot of the guys I worked with had these and also the whole Nano line. I still have my Nanoverb and Nanocomp stuffed away somewhere along with my Ibanez DM1100 digital delay and earlier AD202 analog rack units. Which I see go for some good bucks. My personal favorites from that era are the Lexicon LXP-15 and PCM 80/81 and 90/91. I still have one of the 80's with expansion card and another favorite, a Yamaha E1010 analog delay.
     
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  8. john111/LZ

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    Nice collection there Louis!
     
  9. louisjames

    louisjames The "real" Louis James Subscriber

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    Thank you John. When I think of all the guitars, basses, pedals and amps that passed through my grubby lil hands I have to shake my head. Of course working in a music store helped to fuel that. But it got to the point when I opened my storage space to fit yet another G&L (a small-MFD Humbucker Interceptor) and couldn't find anywhere to put it, that the purge began.
     
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  10. john111/LZ

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    Lucky you...every guitar ive diposed of i now regret.....especially a Vigier and a Guild....such is life:(
     
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  11. JParry335

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    And some amps! Yep. I feel your pain!
     
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  12. Funky54

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    I run wet dry wet.

    Guitar> CMatMods Butah > true bypass A B 4 channel Looper (loop 1&2 are toggle, loop 3&4 are modulation)

    Rig A - dry, Marshall 18 watt only gets dirt on/off
    Rig B - wet, Left of all stereo effects Vox AC30TB 1965
    Rig C - wet, Right of all stereo effects Fender Deluxe Reverb

    Loop 1 & 2 toggle Cranked AC / Dirty Little Secret or (2) Scarob Deluxe / Fixed wah
    Loop 3 70's DMM Delay
    Loop 4 ibanez pt-9 phase> Option 5 Destination Rotation> Supra-Trem 2

    Delay is alway just one dedicated repeat to first Left channel amp, sometimes I add a ad999 and dedicate a third repeat from the right channel amp, so it ping pings first dry amp, then Left amp and last right amp.
    Stereo effects are all "true" stereo with dedicated amps for L & R

    If I want the sound of an effect driven, I have the mild Butah in front. It can be added to the stereo amps with modulation (that's how I prefer my Phase. Think Cowboy song, or Cars tunes.

    I hardly ever stack effects... ok never. I turn on One in a toggle and go on/off from mild break up to lead, fuzz, Woman tone…
    Usually only one modulation is used in a song or a toggle at a time, think Badge, Sister Havana, or In the Meantime…

    When playing, it's almost always a three piece. Don't play much at all these days. No venues, no pay. Last gig I did was actually an authentic Sock Hop. Bunch of doowop and rockabilly.

    I actually just took it apart to change the cloth background

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  13. Funky54

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    Some great advice. Venues are small in my area and they don't pay much either. I keep down sizing my amps. I haven't needed to mic a guitar amp in a long long time. Even Weddings barely need a fill mic just cracked on. We're down to just a sm48 in the bass drum, one between hihat and snare and an over Hang above the drummer in the front, nothing in the monitors except vocals. The bass guitar amp is just a 12 and two 10's with a line in that we barely crack on. No mic on the guitar amps. We're down to taking 4-6 bagend 12's and one super light 15" sub. I've sold off over 20,000 watts of pa amps. We're down to 1 peavy 8.5 and two super light behringer 6000 watt amps. I'm down to a dual 15 band for the fronts and one 15 band eq for the monitors. Drummer is now using a 20" x 16" bass four piece. A 72" tall rack for pa is down to a 36" tall one. All the big mains and horns are gone.

    Volume has always been my pet peeve. I like stacked harmonies and dynamics. Less is always more. I like soft touch jazz drummers in rock bands actually. Nobody wants Banham back there building a shed anymore. Music isn't the center of attention anymore… people want to talk across a table while you play. The dancers want tight base and volume but they are about 10-15 feet from the tables… go figure. More challenging is the genre of music. I will not play traditional blues. I'm sick of it. I don't EVER want to hear Smoke Stack Lighting or Ain't No Sunshine again in my life. I don't want to play with musicians who hide under the guise of "Blues" so they can stop rehearsing and overplay and massage the pentatonic scale all night. If you don't have the dedication to learn structured songs, real parts, don't play. Nobody wants to hear a break in each song as you shout out your own name as if your some legend. Leave your harps at home or learn to compliment the song rather than try to take over. Nobody wants to hear your 20 minute harp solo that is so far from what the song started as that nobody remembers what song you were playing. I don't sing songs about throwing gas on my wife or deals with the devil. I don't ever hear steamtrains from my porch or pick cotton in the sun... so I can't relate and it's not honest coming from me. Blooz suck to play around here. I also don't own a bowling shirt or a Sinatra hat...

    Truth, I like to make an audience happy, but there isn't much I want to play anymore. I'm actually thinking about selling everything and just keeping a flat top. Where I live, nobody supports or cares about live music. It's completely dead.
     
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  14. Eric Lloyd

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    I play electric bass guitar. After many years of fooling around my set-up has settled on this: passive Fender Jazz with dead flatwound strings directly into a 1x15 Fender combo amp. The amp has a built in chorus, which I use slightly, and a graphic eq which I use every time I change venue. Every so often I have a need for a brighter sound, in which case I substitute a Carvin PB500 amp into a 2x10 cab with a horn in place of the fender amp. I also use a digital tuner. I can't possibly overstate a tuner as a must-have effect for those without good pitch or (in my case) band mates who can't quit noodling while you're tuning. That's it. The whole signal chain. Unless I need a direct box for something. Then I have the flattest passive direct box I could find, but I use it d=so seldom I forget the brand.
     
  15. K_50

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    I'm a drummer, so I don't have a lot of hands-on experience with guitar/bass effects. But some of my favourites that I've played with have been:
    The good ol' Boss OD1 used as a gain (high level, low drive) into a Fender Tweed clone just on the verge of overdriving itself with either an SG or Tele - the perfect rock rythm-crunch.
    Carl-Martin Plexitone into a Laney Lionheart or 70's Fender Deluxe Reverb - a super versatile pedal, that can do anything from clean to crunch to hard distortion and sound good all the way.

    In my current band one of the guitarists is using a Fulltone OCD, but in "reverse" - he has it turned on with low volume during his rythm parts, and off during solos. That actually started with the two of us just playing around with his settings, but it works very well, because his lead sound is just his amp overdriving, and then the pedal lowers the input when he's playing rythm.

    For bass I like a bit of overdrive with a gentle treble-boost to accentuate the attack for rock stuff. Or a subtle octave with the normal frequencies still being dominant, especially in a trio setting where it can provide some extra fullness to the sound.
     
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  16. marqueemoon

    marqueemoon Gimme indie rock!

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    I'm toying with the idea of getting an (upper) octave fuzz. It will definitely hinge on whether or not this new project happens. Ideally it would be small.

    Looking for a little smoother (not too glitchy or sputtery), and probably with independent fuzz and level controls and octave on/off. Ideally it would track well enough to not completely freak out with double stops (though a little octave weirdness would be cool and expected).

    I think a Foxx Tone Machine-esqe thing might be the ticket, but I have no idea. The idea is to get some smooth sustain and controllable feedback at lower volumes.

    Any suggestions?
     
  17. louisjames

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  18. Funky54

    Funky54 Well-Known Member

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    Danelectro has a octave fuzz you could get just to fool around with. I believe it's a fox tone circuit copy?
     
  19. valvenator

    valvenator curious bystander, serious procrastinator Subscriber

    Here's a new one from Orange Amps, their take on the Foxx Tone machine, the Orange Fur Coat Fuzz:


    If you already have a fuzz pedal you might so consider this octave pedal from TC:

    They also make a mini version.
    You could pair it with something like this mini fuzz pedal from Red Witch i you don't have a fuzz:
    http://www.redwitchpedals.com/ruby


    The Danelectro is pretty good for the price but doesn't have a separate octave footswitch and the bass really drops with the octave on.
     
  20. marqueemoon

    marqueemoon Gimme indie rock!

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    I love everything about that Super Hornet except the size and how much it costs :(

    I actually really like the sounds of the Dano French Toast, but some reviews I've read mention a lot of noise even when bypassed, which would definitely bum me out.
     

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