I will be getting if I get another one the G or GR but still curious how the new sl1200 stands up to the old one hifi wise?
Chris
Chris
Hands on: Technics SL-1200/SL-1210 MK7 review
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illini
The Past is Alive
Me too. Plus, I’d like to know the peak wow & flutter (IEC) and also the tonearm bearing friction.
illini
The Past is Alive
So there is the street price. Man, if it were another $50-100 less it would be incredibly compelling for me. If I needed another machine it would be a real potential go-to, but if it were at the $800 level, I'd find a way to get one and replace some other machine I've got, if that makes sense.
Sorta thread sideline for a second here: Frank Sol, I own a PLX-1000, onto which the KAB fluid damper fits. Can you describe the changes that result in adding the damper? I've considered adding it.
put a KAB Tonearm Fluid Damper on it and a DL-103R (added $500)
then let it spin spin spin
WaynerN
Addicted Member
Well, the Pioneer PLX-1000 looks like the Techincs. It's a classic design, so no wonder many folks copy parts of it and from first glance, may look identical, but they are not. Especially when you lay parts side by side, or put a digital ruler on some of the piece parts. Not from the same molds, not of the same design......might have some parts reverse engineered to look like the original, but IMO, that is as far as I could speculate.....owning all three brands at one time or another (AT120, PLX-1000).
My 2 cents here.
My 2 cents here.
slate1
Well-Known Member
I won't be Frank, but, I can say it tightened the bass up pretty substantially for me and it does absolute wonders for tracking either slightly warped or slightly out of round pressings.
I've pretty much fully KAB-i-fied out my SL-1210M5G over the years and I would say it's the most substantial addition from Kevin that I've made.
Here's a link to all the mods and my entire system:
https://cgi.audioasylum.com/systems/10769.html
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Frank Sol
Lunatic Member
slate1 summed it up well
will only add... IMO , the damper will allow more carts to play well on the tonearm. Making it more compliance (if you will)
ODS123
Super Member
Out of curiosity, why presume that the new SL-1200Mk7 needs a damper? It would seem to make more sense to wait until you see a clear need. I have an SL-1210GR and don't feel it's lacking for a damper. ..In fact I'd be afraid it would hurt performance.
A few years ago I posted digital rips from my SL-1200mk2 (NOS. 2010 model) one w/ the damper installed and one without. .As many guessed right that guessed wrong as to which rips had the damper installed.
A few years ago I posted digital rips from my SL-1200mk2 (NOS. 2010 model) one w/ the damper installed and one without. .As many guessed right that guessed wrong as to which rips had the damper installed.
mhardy6647
Lunatic Member
It will most arms will work better oil damped, actually the Technics arms of old which are highly sought after were oil damped, Jelco are too, and the difference with and without the damper with the old model was not small.
Chris
Rentz
Active Member
this model sure got a lot more interesting at this price i'll say that much
It's going to be hella interesting to see how these sell in a 2019 world of PLX-1000s, Stanton ST150s, AT1240s and other Super OEM models between $500-700. Will that $300 (or more) gap be surmountable based on prestige, history, performance? I would feel a lot better about the new SL-1200 if it were priced at $800 in the US market, but we'll see soon enough.
I would guess that the new Technics will embarrass the counterfeits. It had worked in the favour of the counterfeits that Technics had withdrawn from selling 1200 models. The counterfeits moved into the vacated market slot. Now the real thing is back they will be compared to it and my guess is that they will be found wanting.
