Jack - I am with you. The fact that it was subtle is a good thing in my view as well. Roadie - I have never had the pleasure of hearing ATC speakers but sure like what I read. To me there is just something magical with British designed and built 2-way speakers. Hard to explain until you hear it. Then frustrating to not capture it in your system. Although many of the brands seem expensive, for me it is a question of value and longevity.