Help ID this sansui console

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  1. jera

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    Buddy of mine picked this up from the original owners son who said he bought it in Japan in 1960. Unfortunately the original tube receiver is gone (may be able to recover it) but so far the internet has turned up nothing. Aside from the missing amp this thing looks amazing. Does anyone know what model this is and where I could find some more info?
     

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  2. Hyperion

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    I'll make a WAG and say none of us have seen one of those either - do you have a model number or anything like that which would help?

    Also the pictures are so dark, and don't show what might be writing on parts of the speaker grilles and cabinet front, we can't see if it is even Sansui at all !

    Much more information please. ;)
     
  3. jera

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    Well unfortunately I could not find any model numbers to speak of. Also all the writing was in Japanese. Here is a picture of the badge on the speakers. Maybe this will help.
     

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    Ok, that's confirmed then :) I am afraid you'll have to wait for someone with the knowledge to help you with ID'ing the unit.

    (Note: some people might only log in once a week, so please be patient.)
     
  5. LBPete

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    Wow! That's a beautiful piece. Clearly expensive in it's day. The style is what people around here call "Mid Century Modern" and is very much in demand to furnish the many Mid Century Modern houses in the LA area. Are there any badges on the turntable? Any hope of finding the original amp/tuner?

    - Pete
     
  6. jera

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    I actually don't have anymore pictures of these as they belong to a buddy but will try and get him to send some more. As far as I was told the orginal amp stop working so they took it out. They said it may still be around. I will hope he ends up with that as it would be nice to see it in all orginal condition.
     
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    Turns out the owners son had the catalog jammed in the bottom of the console and it appears to be model aps18. Here are some pics from the catalog
     

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  8. petehall347

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    might be personal preference but i would swap speaker left for right etc
     
  9. bluesky

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    That is the Rarest Sansui item I've ever seen, aware of... 'Amazing'.

    I have seen 1 pair of the APS-10 speakers for sale on Yahoo Japan 5+ years ago... but NEVER the center consol.

    ' SUPER ULTRA ' Rare!!

    APS consoles:
    APS-10 1962/4 (the very first console) - April1962
    APS-18 1962/7 (2nd console)
    APS-15 1962/10
    APS-7 1963/4
    APS-12 1963/5

    Jera: I'll keep my eyes open for the amp, if you want one. It may take 5+ years.
     
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  10. jera

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    Would love an amp unfortunately this is not my set up. It belongs to a buddy. I thought about purchasing this from him but lack the space. Do you have any idea what amp went in there?
     
  11. satellite

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    Wow! Freaking awesome! I guess you see something new every day. I hope your friend finds the receiver. Thanks for posting this.
     
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  12. larryderouin

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    It looks like it was originally setup for a receiver, based on the design of the center console, unless it's a preamp/tuner, with separate amplifiers in the speaker housings.
     
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    Totally agree, and that it is the way it is shown in the literature!
     
  14. Sandstrom

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    That thing is super neato by the way, bet we'll bever see another one of those in our lifetime...
     
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    APS-10.jpg

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    Finding out information on the early 60's APS consoles is almost impossible. You can even search * Biglobe, Japan (below) and you rarely find anything. How it goes is you just get lucky sometimes and find a little bit of information here and there. Information is scarce. It's darn near impossible to find photographs of the early 60's consoles too, some you can't even find 'one photo'. That hard. With that said...

    It looks like the APS-10 console didn't have a front handle on the bottom fold down lid at all ???, or the sterephonic plackard on the top front. We do have to check this out some more. Maybe I'm wrong.

    APS-10 1962/4 . (Yen: 73,900 - 360 yen to $1 USD) The ‘first’ separate stereo APS console. This system had the SM-10 AM/FM Stereo Tri-amp (see photo above). (6GW8s)6AQ8-6AJ8(80-108MHz). This information and 2 photos is all that I could ever find out about it. Scarce! I know your brochure is APS-10.

    APS-18 1962/7. I think you have an APS-18. This console does have the "stereophonic sound system" plackard on the top and 1 handle on the pull down lid, like yours. Also... look on the back of the speakers and see if there are stickers that say "Chan 1", and the other speaker "Chan 2". The APS-18 has this printed on a sticker on the back of the speakers. The APS 18 also had speaker wire connections: an oblong rectangle type mount, color black, with 2 screw to tighten down on the wires in the middle of the horizontal rectangle mount and has 2 phillips screws on each side outboard of the speaker wire screws. The philips screws holds the whole speaker attachment unit onto the back of each speaker.

    In any event - your friend has a Super Ultra RARE Sansui console in 'outstanding like new condition'. Really nice!!

    I personally wouldn't worry about using an original amp, but certainly 'GET IT' if you can and just keep it in the closet.. The tuner section may not work in USA anyway.

    Do the speakers work???
    Does the turntable work?


    Thanks for posting the RARE photos your friend took. :) So Cool! Please post more!! Including TT & cartridge/headshell & inside speaker cabinets.

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    ALSO: Would it be possible to post a 'quality scan' of the 'complete APS-10 brochure' that you have, especially a readable page with all the amps and equipment on it. I'd really appreciate it!

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    SEE:


    * Biglobe search engine - Japan:

    http://images.search.biglobe.ne.jp/cgi-bin/search?q=APS-10+sansui&searchBtn=検索&ie=utf8&o_sf=1&o_cr=all&o_si=&o_ft=all&o_sz=all

    Sansui Rack, Cabinet, and APS console model numbers
    http://audiokarma.org/forums/index.php?threads/sansui-rack-cabinet-and-aps-console-model-numbers.409775/


    Hope this helps.


     
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  16. bluesky

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    $200 2 old suis and Fisher RS1060.jpg

    APS-18 - note handle & plackard.


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    APS-10, I believe. No plackard.

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  18. freQ(*)Oddio

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    That truly is a gem,. a holy grail find. certainly one of the only sansui items missing from some complete collections.
     
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    That truly is a gem - if it works. Super great shape... like new.

    o find one in USA is unreal!!

    Rare in Japan too. APS-10 & APS-18 consoles never come up for sale, ever.

    Super Rare! Nice!!
     
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