High End Turntables
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This is why my tables are all setup the same and have the same sound....I don't have to think.
I still tend to gravatate to the same table for whatever little idiosyncrasy I think it has.
The best I could tell you is put the cart you like best on your favorite arm in the main location.
I find arms are really important to me, they have to feel right and function easily, resting and cueing them. Kind of like the cockpit of a car, you see the dash, and you want to feel comfortable there. Tires, rims, paint job, badging you can's really see while your using it....just the dash. :thmbsp:
chewie
From Beyond The Mysterious Beyond
Wow, that's cool! I have idler, belt and direct drive tts, so that kind of stuff doesn't bother me, just curious.
Yeah compliance matter a lot but without looking you should be in range.
Uncle Paul
Super Member
Wow!!!
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
Yes, nice tables.
I was happy to be hosted by ehoove last week on my way to beach week and let me tell you those turntable, especially the Thorens units look way better in person. The 125/Birdseye maple with a maple armboard is very nice. I like the Magnepan arm and have a couple myself. Jim has really upgraded his TTs over the few years we have been talking and I think he has got something now. He told me his Clear Audio with mods is a very nice step up from the finely tuned Thorens tables he has. This is the reason it is in the main rig flying solo (well will two tonearms). Very nice Jim. Now if I could only get my two Thorens tables to look that nice and perform as well. I've got some work to do.
I was happy to be hosted by ehoove last week on my way to beach week and let me tell you those turntable, especially the Thorens units look way better in person. The 125/Birdseye maple with a maple armboard is very nice. I like the Magnepan arm and have a couple myself. Jim has really upgraded his TTs over the few years we have been talking and I think he has got something now. He told me his Clear Audio with mods is a very nice step up from the finely tuned Thorens tables he has. This is the reason it is in the main rig flying solo (well will two tonearms). Very nice Jim. Now if I could only get my two Thorens tables to look that nice and perform as well. I've got some work to do.
Blue Shadow
Waiting for Vintage Gear from this century
no you don't qualify but we are happy you posted that machine for us to see.
That is the most massive armboard I have ever seen. Is it fixed or movable? I ask because it appears there is some softness between the plinth and the first layer of the armboard.
Unless you are using a flip needle I'm sure that unit could not be duplicated for anything near the entrance fee on this collection of record players. Thanks for posting.
That is the most massive armboard I have ever seen. Is it fixed or movable? I ask because it appears there is some softness between the plinth and the first layer of the armboard.
Unless you are using a flip needle I'm sure that unit could not be duplicated for anything near the entrance fee on this collection of record players. Thanks for posting.
TubeHiFiNut
Super Member
@mfrench.....
Very unique!
I'll bet it sounds great!
Very unique!
I'll bet it sounds great!
You should see the other one he has and they both relate to his avatar.:yes:
mfrench
Addicted Member
Its moveable. What you see is a layer of leather.
the main plinth weighs somewhere around 125lbs +-
The armboard weighs around 40lbs
By my calculations, the entire package comes in around 185lbs
Uhmmmm, nobody is going to be able to steal this thing, without a crew.
I made the armboard, as a separate, so that it can be taken off, and the deck moved.
the leather was there, as i'd read about people making off-plinth arm pods; people suggesting that isolated is better, etc.
I spent lot of time building this deck, finish it, fire it up, and I get a rumble that i never heard it make prior to building the plinth.
Devastated.
Why was it doing this?
I tore it apart, re-relubed everything, readjusted everything, made sure that all of the moving parts were fine, assemble it again; rumble. Oh Accckkk!!!
This went on for a couple of weeks, and i was just beyond disappointed.
Then I started going back to elemental recording knowledge that I had learned the hard way; about the fundamentals of phase cancellations, and phasing anomalies. And I started wondering if having a separate armboard was such a good thing.
My thought was that the cartridge was picking up on a vibration, a new and unique impulse source, and it was amplifying it.
Phase cancellation suggests that shared common impulses affect each other in various ways; one being canceling out common impulses.
could it be that the arm was picking up a new impulse that was coming from the plinth, and amplifying it?
I finally thought to take that leather slip out, put soapstone to soapstone without the slip sheet.
I put the needle to groove; rumble eliminated.
Now the arm and plinth were sharing the same impulse being "solidly" connected, and, what I'm assuming is phase cancellation of rumble, that went into perfect alignment, and canceled. No more rumble; and never again a stand alone armboard. That thin piece of leather made a tremendous negative impact.
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mfrench
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And here they are together, crushing the life out of their library table.
Thats nearly 400lbs of tt on that table. Good thing its stout. Notice how they're mostly centered over a large leg of the table?
We utilize the crush the life out of resonance and vibration by pure mass loading technique.
1963 Bogen-Presto B51_heavy-platter-mod, on soapstone, build (right deck):
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=377588
1955 Presto T18_DC-mod A driveline redesign hot-rod, on soapstone, build (left deck):
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=380100
Thats nearly 400lbs of tt on that table. Good thing its stout. Notice how they're mostly centered over a large leg of the table?
We utilize the crush the life out of resonance and vibration by pure mass loading technique.
1963 Bogen-Presto B51_heavy-platter-mod, on soapstone, build (right deck):
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=377588
1955 Presto T18_DC-mod A driveline redesign hot-rod, on soapstone, build (left deck):
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=380100
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