How do I ship Freon?
- Thread starter jaymanaa
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Surely there has to be a way to ship the stuff.:scratch2: Thanks for any info, Jay
Twenty20Man
Is that you Michael?
call a A/C distributor
spartanmanor
Lunatic Member
Don't tell them what is in the box.
You'll have to pack it in accordance with the carrier's policy on shipping hazardous goods. I'm surprised the UPS gal didn't offer you more information. Lack of training, I suppose. There are additional fees and special packaging and paperwork. I've had to ship flammables before and the paperwork and packing has to be perfect.
Contact USPS, UPS or FedEx.
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/prepare/hazardous/index.html
http://www.fedex.com/us/services/options/hazmat/docs.html
http://hazmat.dot.gov/pubs/do_you_know_Final_cropped.pdf
Contact USPS, UPS or FedEx.
http://www.ups.com/content/us/en/resources/prepare/hazardous/index.html
http://www.fedex.com/us/services/options/hazmat/docs.html
http://hazmat.dot.gov/pubs/do_you_know_Final_cropped.pdf
similost
Rockin and Rollin....
I think that would be a BAD idea.. something happens and it leaks.. I'm sure they will have a few feds knocking on your door asking for payment for cleanup crews.. and fines...
All I can say is good luck..
jaymanaa
RIP 1961-2018
RetroHacker
Electronics Accumulator
Huh? Since when is Freon hazardous? It's not flammable (AFAIK), and if it's happily living inside it's can, how is it going to escape? Sure, it's pressurized - so is shaving cream.
The only possible danger I can think of, is if someone took the can, and hammered a nail into the side, they'd freeze their fingers off. But packed in a box?
-Ian
The only possible danger I can think of, is if someone took the can, and hammered a nail into the side, they'd freeze their fingers off. But packed in a box?
-Ian
similost
Rockin and Rollin....
OR.. if it's in an unpressurized cargo area of an airplane, at 35,000 feet it might want to try getting out.. .
fotno
Lunatic Member
The last I heard the INTENTIONAL discharge of any amount of freon into the open atmosphere, had a fine of $15,000(?) per incident imposed upon it. They have recovery units for that very purpose, and I seem to recall a series of technical classes that all my HVAC friends had to attend when the regs changed.
Every unit of freon I have ever seen used, has been shipped to the end user, by some means, usually the standard carriers; but I don't think it's allowed by air under any circumstances. Ground only, unless I am mistaken.
R12? I dunno, but the current versions get shipped all the time.
Every unit of freon I have ever seen used, has been shipped to the end user, by some means, usually the standard carriers; but I don't think it's allowed by air under any circumstances. Ground only, unless I am mistaken.
R12? I dunno, but the current versions get shipped all the time.
RocknRum
Active Member
Used to be able to buy it at Radio Shack a few years back, but no longer.
I assume it was to do with new regulations concerning CFC's and the ozone layer. Freon is classfied as a dangerous good in North America. Here is the
MSDS for it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/MSDS/Freon-22.pdf
I assume it was to do with new regulations concerning CFC's and the ozone layer. Freon is classfied as a dangerous good in North America. Here is the
MSDS for it.
http://www.mae.carleton.ca/MSDS/Freon-22.pdf
spartanmanor
Lunatic Member
Yes you are right. Please disregard my earlier post. I used to have a summer job working as an AC tech back when there were not all the regulations that exist today. I won't even begin to tell you how much we dumped into the atmosphere. I don't think it is explosive but if you were to be caught shipping it without a license then the sh*t could hit the fan.
VinylHanger
Navigaret ex ironia
Chit, our HazMat guys want us to get a special lined dumpster for disposing of out dated milk.
Yep, milk.
Un - friggin - believable
willyrover
Super Member
Is the original poster actually wanting to ship Freon?
Or is he using "Freon" as a generic term for refrigerant r-134a (which is not actually Freon)?
Or is he using "Freon" as a generic term for refrigerant r-134a (which is not actually Freon)?
Just to show you how stupid the regulations are,
If I needed to drain R-134 gas from a system
for service (usually 5-10 oz) I have to be certified
and have special recovery equipment to do it,
because its illegal to vent it.
On the other hand,
Anyone with a ten dollar bill can buy this 10 oz can or larger
then legally vent it into the air all they want...
http://www.e-sonic.com/whatsnew/weekly_MGChemical_402A285g.htm
If I needed to drain R-134 gas from a system
for service (usually 5-10 oz) I have to be certified
and have special recovery equipment to do it,
because its illegal to vent it.
On the other hand,
Anyone with a ten dollar bill can buy this 10 oz can or larger
then legally vent it into the air all they want...
http://www.e-sonic.com/whatsnew/weekly_MGChemical_402A285g.htm
toxcrusadr
Omelette au Fromage
I concur on the ground shipment - has to go Fedex Ground, etc. because the container is under more stress at high altitude.
Might be able to do it Parcel Post. It is Pressurized Gas, but obviously not Flammable Gas which are two different things in the shipping world.
In any case, guaranteed you will pay more than regular freight, if you tell them what it is.
Might be able to do it Parcel Post. It is Pressurized Gas, but obviously not Flammable Gas which are two different things in the shipping world.
In any case, guaranteed you will pay more than regular freight, if you tell them what it is.
pioneervato
Lunatic Member
Just to show you how stupid the regulations are,
If I needed to drain R-134 gas from a system
for service (usually 5-10 oz) I have to be certified
and have special recovery equipment to do it,
because its illegal to vent it.
On the other hand,
Anyone with a ten dollar bill can buy this 10 oz can or larger
then legally vent it into the air all they want...
http://www.e-sonic.com/whatsnew/weekly_MGChemical_402A285g.htm
If it is free of CFC's then it's not illegal. I have been using Dust-Off (and similar brands) for dusting negatives for years and still do.
