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I picked up a Toyota MR2 mkII project car - I think I'll name it Dan Gurney

Discussion in 'Wheels, Wings, Mud, and Water' started by w1jim, Dec 16, 2012.

  1. w1jim

    w1jim I can fix it but good... Subscriber

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    Last SCCA race of the year at Thompson CT - here's the HRG (Historic Racing Group) pace lap.


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  2. 45rpmspinner

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    Bought my wife a 1985 model for $600 in about 1995, she drove it for 10 years until I wrecked it. The insurance company gave us $3000 for it, of which $2800 was soon spent on a much better condition 1986 model.....which she also drove for about 10 years.

    Great fun to drive in the twisties. One-to-one manual steering. Wheelbase less than 8ft. Something like 4ft high. 2200 lbs. 5 speed manual transmission.
    Even with the standard 1.5 liter engine, basically a very fast factory-made go-cart with leather seats, power windows, and a toolbox sized trunk.

    Both engines had well over 200,000 miles on them by the time we were through.

    Sold the '86 to a mechanic. It's still on the road.
     
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  4. w1jim

    w1jim I can fix it but good... Subscriber

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    Nope - never had that problem since I figured out how to tune out the oversteer with larger rear wheels/tire (like the later turbos) and tire pressures. Took me an hour on a short track to figure out - 32F / 38R.

    I had an 1987 first generation MR2 back in the day. Great Car and much lighter than the 2nd gen - but lacking in power versus my turbo.
     
  5. 851 SP3

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    Actually, Toyotas were built in California starting in '86. AAR was contracted by Toyota, in 1983, to prepare Celicas to run in IMSA (first in GTU, later GTO). That class, even then, was essentially silhouette racers. The only things they would have had to use from a production car were the windshield and roof though they did use the complete tub. Any engine in Toyota's production lineup was allowed, as long as the displacement requirement for the class was met (normally aspirated, under 3 liters = GTU; up to 3 liters with forced induction and normally aspirated up to 6.5 liters = GTO). Just about anything else was left to the team's designers - suspension, gearbox, brakes, wheels, etc.

    Celica GTU - http://photos.wildhirt.com/lsimsa84/images/30lsimsa84.jpg
    Celica GTO - https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3064/2656619627_6236058a6a_z.jpg?zz=1

    Toyota then decided they wanted to move to GTP class for 1989. They had already been running prototypes in '87-8 in Group C/LeMans and the All Japan Sports Prototype Car Endurance Championship with Dome supplying the chassis (while AAR was running the Celica GTO in the States). AAR prepared a Toyota (Dome) 88C and designed/built the Eagle HF89 for this project.

    88C - http://m6.i.pbase.com/g9/61/35561/2/107937926.Mm5zfYxF.jpg
    HF89 - http://m8.i.pbase.com/g9/61/35561/2/133893748.wYek1uco.jpg
    HF90 - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJU52qMUYAA4zUs.jpg

    The HF89/90 was then replaced by the Eagle MkIII. It was during the design phase of the MkIII that a friend/coworker landed an electrical tech/data acquisition geek (DAG) job with AAR. He was involved in rigging up the wind tunnel model's instrumentation and made a few trips to Japan with Mr. Fujimori (aerodynamicist).

    Eagle MkIII - http://www.conceptcarz.com/images/Toyota/92-Toyota_IMSA_GTP_Eagle_MKIII_DV-08_MH_08.jpg

    Once the economy had started the death spiral of GTP (and AAR/Toyota had buried it), they moved to (CART) Indycar (first with Eagle chassis then with Reynard) with terrible results (Toyota's engines were complete and utter trash at that point) and that lead to the end of AAR's racing days.

    Eagle MkV - http://www.canamcarsltd.com/photo/1996_Eagle_ChampCar_CART_Toyota_Gurney.jpg

    note the completely incorrect aero parts on the car above. superspeedway front bits with a triple-element (streetcourse) rear wing.

    Eagle MkV (superspeedway, correctly set up) - http://www.fototime.com/CFAF8AC1532141228973F510F5ECC6D8/standard.jpg
    Eagle MkV (road course, correct) - http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bxlTrO8Jy...Q/HBbQWKZCDiY/s1600/3208567840_8f4c682aa2.jpg
     
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  6. w1jim

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    A couple of nice Toyotas at the Peterson museum in LA.

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    Westy56 A symphony of paradox

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    Nice job!
    What's the redline on your engine?
     
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    Not positive though I have hit the rev limiter a few times.
    Probably around 7200.
     
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    sure. it has two doors and four wheels........
     
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    Rodger that...MotorWeek compared the SC styling to the 928 Porsche.

    My "harkens back" quote may pertain to the Supra Mark IV. I'll post that if I can find it again.
     
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    You seen this, right?

     

     

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    Hard to believe I’m 5-1/2 years into my MR2 adventure. Still using it as the pace car at the regional SCCA races but on Thursday I took it to a “Track Night In America” event at Lime Rock Park (LRP) in Connecticut.
    LRP is unique to New England tracks in that it has serious “flow”.
    For about 1.3 of it’s 1.54 mile length you’re basically trying to carry speed.
    That means anyplace you lose speed effects the speed into the next corner and then down the front straight. There’s only 1 major braking zone, everywhere else you’d ideally be hard on the throttle or light braking.
    Yes - it’s scary fast.
    I first drove here over 40 years ago and every corner has the memory of some occurrence; like spinning out, rolling on my side or having a car fly over my hood (yep).

    The picture above shows me at the top of the “Up Hill” where you are (or close to) airborn.
    Speed secret - when your tires have scant contact with the road surface don’t try to alter its trajectory - an expensive lesson learned by a Corvette owner at this event.

    Some more pictures:

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    There was a local-ish guy that used to autocross in one of those. Manual, turbo, hardtop.

    He cracked about three windshields after doing some suspension and used track tires. Those were stiff cars or at least could be made to be quite stiff.
     

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