If i was to manufacture a perfect set of speakers...

Discussion in 'Speakers' started by butcherblock, Jul 8, 2017.

  1. butcherblock

    butcherblock AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Well i really like the way this is going. Let me clear this up. I have designs for a new driver and not asking about opinions on that. I have built Abd repaired many many many speakers over my days. I am asking, 2 way or 3 way, big and bulky like pioneers or slim and sleek like b&o, flour standing or bookshelf. Stereo or surround... So on... For my first production system using already available parts and platforms. To hone my skills further and finance my endeavors. What would "you" like to see it would buy. Just pretty much reading a sensuous...

    Thanx all
     
  2. wmgwizard

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    @butcherblock : You are asking the same question that has been asked since the invention of sound reproduction.

    There is no single answer that's why there is such diversity in the marketplace. That's also why many of us have multiple pairs of speakers.

    Might be easier to describe the perfect woman.
     
  3. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber

    Agree - both are impossible to define.
     
  4. Todd Dodds

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    But when you give up trying to get good definition, only one of them can be switched off.
     
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  5. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber

    headphones or ear plugs :D
     
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  6. botrytis

    botrytis Trying not to be a Small Speaker Hoarder Subscriber

    Also, that is why my office/listening room is in the basement. I don't get disturbed much :D
     
  7. butcherblock

    butcherblock AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Ok so i have not been around much. But i got thinking. Who makes speakers like the old Pioneer speakers still? 3 or 4 way big box systems.

    I think that would be great to use today's technology with yesterday's designs. Does anyone? Who thinks there is a market for it?
     
  8. mhardy6647

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    Harbeth.
    http://www.harbeth.co.uk/

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  9. SuperLead100

    SuperLead100 "These go to 11"

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    Yamaha...NS-5000 3-way that looks similar to their legendary NS-1000m...
     
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  10. JoeESP9

    JoeESP9 ESL's & tubes since 83

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    For many of the posters on AK yes. (bear in mind many of them will not buy anything new). For the rest of the world I would say no.
     
  11. butcherblock

    butcherblock AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Fair reply, kind of what i was thinking. But, i am here to here from all of you. What brings you to this conclusion?
     
  12. HTWillie

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    Attractive, cheap, and sounds good.

    $400-500 I think is a sweet spot, both for people who will try them out for a year or so before moving on to something else, and people who will never buy another pair of speakers.

    Personally I prefer 2.0 but 2.1 is totally legitimate and offers a lot of flexibility.
     
  13. lab

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    I think the perfect woman would be one you meet who describes a revolutionary new transducer she's been working on in her personal anechoic chamber...
     
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  14. Drugolf

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    Well, apparently the market says small and portable is key. Also based on the market I would say it doesn't really need to sound very good. You should make millions if you keep to that formula.
     
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  15. stevo137

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    I think that I would try oval drivers vs conical and place them in pyramid cabinets with an eyeball tweeter on the top of the pyramid and down firing sub woofer at the bottom of the cabinet.

    If the oval drivers don't work use round and this would be a three way speaker with powered subwoofer.

    Powered sub can also be switched to passive.

    Then design a small desktop 2 way pyramid, 2 way pyramids with stands and subwoofer and last but not least The Great Pyramid which costs $100,000 for the person who has more money than sense.

    The great pyramid would have drivers on all four sides of the pyramid with a tweeter on top that is similar to the
    MBL's and of course the best powered subwoofers facing down at the bottom of the cabinet.

    Pyramids everywhere!

    The Power of the Pyramid!


    BUT!
    Heres the problem with a new great idea!
    Usually someone has already thought of it!

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  16. Boozehound

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    How true, beat me to it.

    Best-

    Boozehound
     
  17. JoeESP9

    JoeESP9 ESL's & tubes since 83

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    After being around here for more than eight years it's not that difficult to know which direction many here lean toward. That would be vintage gear above all else and speakers with ten and twelve inch woofers.

    As for what I'd like; that would be full range ESL's with flat response to 20Hz, +110dB@10' maximum level and a price (<$1000) that someone (Me) who is living on a disability income can afford.:D
     
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  18. butcherblock

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    Yup that is exactly where i leaning rewards. A similar design to cs-99 to be more exact. I think that over the years that style have proven to be timeless along with the amazing rich full sound they made. I miss speakers like that and feel a new version with modern styling and components is missing from the market. Smaller speakers are defiantly here to stay, but the vintage gear is the heart of the industry still IMHO... I would live to produce a version to fill that gap for many reasons. I want to bring that era back to life and give it a new fresh breath. Also i need to generate funds to develop my new driver.

    I am thinking cs-99 is a benchmark and still fetches as much as $1000 a pair in great condition. I feel that leaves a retail price with enough room for profit and the multiple driver configuration. What models do all you suggest?
     
  19. butcherblock

    butcherblock AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    Very interesting... I like the style...
     
  20. JoeESP9

    JoeESP9 ESL's & tubes since 83

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    If the CS-99 type sound is what you're after you'll never get me (ESL fan) to bite. CS-99's have never sounded good to me. When you put a large underdamped woofer in a cabinet too small you get the CS-99 sound. That is, flabby boomy bass that doesn't go very deep. I don't much like HPM's either.
     

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