Greetings all, (Note: I've added some voltage omissions from the original post)
I've been working on bringing a shelved SX-650 back to life and have had great results so far thanks to several threads here dealing with the power supply boards, protection circuit etc.
Thankfully this unit hadn't been worked on by anyone yet and things were stock.
Plugged into a DBT resulted in no relay click and voltages that were somewhat off but not too unusually so.
So after replacing all of the electrolytics on both boards and the transistors listed below I got the relay to initiate regularly and stably. This with the help of "MTF"'s 2/4/6 jumper instructions and the input of others from that and other SX-650 issue threads here. (Thanks!)
The problem now is that almost all voltages are where they should be except the following.
The Right channel power IC Pin: 4 which is at a stable, but aggravating, -15mV
And Q: 13 & 14 on the "GWR-101" Amp board.
The Left channel power IC gives what I'd hope and expect in regard to specs. (see below)
All of the substitutions described below were done in order to replace defectives and achieve proper voltages or balance.
Currently I'm at a loss so I thought I'd transcribe my notes and see what any helpful individual might say under these circumstances. Any and all help is appreciated.
GWR-101 Power amp board & current voltages versus: (Voltages from SM)
All electrolytics replaced:
Q6: (2SC2649) now KSC1845
Q5: (2SC2649) now KSC1845
Q7: (2SD313) Orig. B= +13.7V(+13.6V) C= +38.5V (+39.0V) E= +13.1(+13.0V)
Q8: (2SD313) Orig. B= +32.7V (+34.6V) C= +45.6 (+46.0V) E= +32.1(+33.0V)
Q9: (2SC945) Orig. C= +33.36V (+34.6) E= +13.61 (+13.6)
Q10: (2SB507) now MJE15031 C= -45.1V (-50.0V) B= -36.9V (-34.6V) E= -36.5V (-34.0V)
Q11: (2SC1647) now KSD1616 B= -3.1mV (0.0V) C= +19.2V (+21V) (sub correction)
Q12: (2SC1647) now KSC1616 B= -2.0mV (0.0V) E= +19.1V (+21V) (sub correction)
*Q13: (2SA823) now KSA992 C= -1.5 (-1.5V) E= +15.77V (+17V)
*Q14: (2SC1647) now KSD1616 C= +8.21 V (+1.3) / E= -0.5mV (0.0V) (sub correction)
*Q15: (2SC1384) now KSC2690 B= +8.53V (+13V) E= +7.54V (+12V)
Point: "K" +48.2V (+48.0V)
Point: "N" -49.5V (-50.0V)]
D's: All "1S2472 - 1S24723" are now 1N4148
D11: 35V zener tests O.K.
R-59/R60 replaced
**GWH-101 Power IC board:
Q1: (2SA798) now (match/pair KSA992-shared Emitter)
E= +0.64mV (0.65mV) C= -35.8V (-34.0V) / C2= -34.7V (-34.0V) E2= +0.64mV (0.65mV)
Q2: (2SA798) now (match/pair KSA992-shared Emitter)
E= +0.65mV (0.65mV) C= -36.4V (-34.0V) / C2= -35.3V (-34.0V) E2= +0.65mV (0.65mV)
Q3: (2SC1438) now KSC1845 B=-34.4V (-33.5V) C= -1.31V (-1.2V)
Q4: (2SC1438) now KSC1845 B=-35.4V (-33.5V) C= -1.29V (-1.2V)
Right Channel Output IC:
1: +35.16V (+36.0V)
2: +1.21V (+1.2V)
3: +5.3mV (+65.0mV)
4: -14.7mV (+33.0mV)
5: -35.1V (-36.0V)
6: -1.2V (-1.2V)
7: -31.6mV (-6.0mV)
Left Channel Output IC:
1: +35.16V (+36.0V)
2: +1.21V (+1.2V)
3: +50.1mV (+65.0mV)
4: +31.7mV (+33.0mV)
5: -35.1V (-36.0V)
6: -1.2V (-1.2V)
7: +11.5mV (-6.0mV)
Binding posts
7: -35.35V (-36.0V)
17: -14.5mV (relay)
12: -36.3V (-34.0V) (Jumpered to BP#28)
13: 0.9mV (-34.0V / SM shows wired to ground and to BP#28. Mistake?)
14: +31.9V (+33.0V) (Jumpered to BP#29)
16: -14.2mV (No V on SM)
21: +30.0mV (No V on SM)
23: -49.17V (-50.0V)
26: +47.7V (+48.0V)
28: -36.3V (-34.0V) (Jumpered to BP#12)
29: +31.9V (+33.0V) (Jumpered to BP#14)
I'd be happy to provide any other voltage readings or info on what else has been done, i.e.
..I've checked so many resistors, solder connections, wire wraps and jumpers it's all just too much to list here tonight.
Thanks much and again,
-Mark>
I've been working on bringing a shelved SX-650 back to life and have had great results so far thanks to several threads here dealing with the power supply boards, protection circuit etc.
Thankfully this unit hadn't been worked on by anyone yet and things were stock.
Plugged into a DBT resulted in no relay click and voltages that were somewhat off but not too unusually so.
So after replacing all of the electrolytics on both boards and the transistors listed below I got the relay to initiate regularly and stably. This with the help of "MTF"'s 2/4/6 jumper instructions and the input of others from that and other SX-650 issue threads here. (Thanks!)
The problem now is that almost all voltages are where they should be except the following.
The Right channel power IC Pin: 4 which is at a stable, but aggravating, -15mV
And Q: 13 & 14 on the "GWR-101" Amp board.
The Left channel power IC gives what I'd hope and expect in regard to specs. (see below)
All of the substitutions described below were done in order to replace defectives and achieve proper voltages or balance.
Currently I'm at a loss so I thought I'd transcribe my notes and see what any helpful individual might say under these circumstances. Any and all help is appreciated.
GWR-101 Power amp board & current voltages versus: (Voltages from SM)
All electrolytics replaced:
Q6: (2SC2649) now KSC1845
Q5: (2SC2649) now KSC1845
Q7: (2SD313) Orig. B= +13.7V(+13.6V) C= +38.5V (+39.0V) E= +13.1(+13.0V)
Q8: (2SD313) Orig. B= +32.7V (+34.6V) C= +45.6 (+46.0V) E= +32.1(+33.0V)
Q9: (2SC945) Orig. C= +33.36V (+34.6) E= +13.61 (+13.6)
Q10: (2SB507) now MJE15031 C= -45.1V (-50.0V) B= -36.9V (-34.6V) E= -36.5V (-34.0V)
Q11: (2SC1647) now KSD1616 B= -3.1mV (0.0V) C= +19.2V (+21V) (sub correction)
Q12: (2SC1647) now KSC1616 B= -2.0mV (0.0V) E= +19.1V (+21V) (sub correction)
*Q13: (2SA823) now KSA992 C= -1.5 (-1.5V) E= +15.77V (+17V)
*Q14: (2SC1647) now KSD1616 C= +8.21 V (+1.3) / E= -0.5mV (0.0V) (sub correction)
*Q15: (2SC1384) now KSC2690 B= +8.53V (+13V) E= +7.54V (+12V)
Point: "K" +48.2V (+48.0V)
Point: "N" -49.5V (-50.0V)]
D's: All "1S2472 - 1S24723" are now 1N4148
D11: 35V zener tests O.K.
R-59/R60 replaced
**GWH-101 Power IC board:
Q1: (2SA798) now (match/pair KSA992-shared Emitter)
E= +0.64mV (0.65mV) C= -35.8V (-34.0V) / C2= -34.7V (-34.0V) E2= +0.64mV (0.65mV)
Q2: (2SA798) now (match/pair KSA992-shared Emitter)
E= +0.65mV (0.65mV) C= -36.4V (-34.0V) / C2= -35.3V (-34.0V) E2= +0.65mV (0.65mV)
Q3: (2SC1438) now KSC1845 B=-34.4V (-33.5V) C= -1.31V (-1.2V)
Q4: (2SC1438) now KSC1845 B=-35.4V (-33.5V) C= -1.29V (-1.2V)
Right Channel Output IC:
1: +35.16V (+36.0V)
2: +1.21V (+1.2V)
3: +5.3mV (+65.0mV)
4: -14.7mV (+33.0mV)
5: -35.1V (-36.0V)
6: -1.2V (-1.2V)
7: -31.6mV (-6.0mV)
Left Channel Output IC:
1: +35.16V (+36.0V)
2: +1.21V (+1.2V)
3: +50.1mV (+65.0mV)
4: +31.7mV (+33.0mV)
5: -35.1V (-36.0V)
6: -1.2V (-1.2V)
7: +11.5mV (-6.0mV)
Binding posts
7: -35.35V (-36.0V)
17: -14.5mV (relay)
12: -36.3V (-34.0V) (Jumpered to BP#28)
13: 0.9mV (-34.0V / SM shows wired to ground and to BP#28. Mistake?)
14: +31.9V (+33.0V) (Jumpered to BP#29)
16: -14.2mV (No V on SM)
21: +30.0mV (No V on SM)
23: -49.17V (-50.0V)
26: +47.7V (+48.0V)
28: -36.3V (-34.0V) (Jumpered to BP#12)
29: +31.9V (+33.0V) (Jumpered to BP#14)
I'd be happy to provide any other voltage readings or info on what else has been done, i.e.
..I've checked so many resistors, solder connections, wire wraps and jumpers it's all just too much to list here tonight.
Thanks much and again,
-Mark>
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