Is it dumb to upgrade to AT440 now that it's discontinued?

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  1. JP

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    I said exactly that in 2010. I miss those days.
     
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  2. needlestein

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    LOL!!!!
     
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    I want to have your opinion, but I can't. In practice I either have confirmation bias or some other illness, but I can't even listen to CDs anymore except in the car.

    I even prefer ceramic cartridges and vinyl to CDs. The good news is, you don't have to spend a lot. Gusten is the king if you want advice on how to get the best sound for the least money. I should listen to gusten more.
     
  4. gusten

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    I don´t think so, there are many here with a great knowledge, and You are certainly one of them. :)
     
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    Well, what do you know...Thank you sir! :beerchug:
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    Thank you, but you take it to another level. I appreciate your efforts and the efforts of so many others. Great community here.

    Also, I should add that the CD's I listen to in my car are ones I made from vinyl. Recorded music industry CDs, as we have noticed and beaten the dead horse about, do not take full advantage of the medium.
     
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    I think any criticizing should be towards Audio-Technica for increasing their prices!
     
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    How is what DesertTwang said criticizing? Everything stated referred to "I" and "myself" not "those that do" or others. I personally agree with his point of view regarding spending.
     
  9. WaynerN

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    The ATN150Sa is $168.88 with free shipping. How is that out of line? I'm sorry that replacement styli costs sometimes as much as the original cartridge, but that is the way things are now days.
     
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    And then it's 2017 and you wake up to four turntables with a fifth (lonely little Garrard changer) sitting on the floor in the corner and a sixth quietly waiting for you in a little room on another continent.
     
  11. 808_state

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    Fear not Wayner, once he gets a taste then he'll want more. Half the fun of this hobby is the chase.
     
  12. JP

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    11.
     
  13. empirelvr

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    It always was that way. For the better carts like the various high end Shure's and Stantons, the replacement stylus always cost about 2/3 of what you'd pay for a current complete cart of the same model. Nothing new there! :)
     
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    I agree as well, no offense taken here. In fact, I kind of admire DesertTwang for it. I wish I was as strong as he is to not succumb to the ever shifting audio goalposts.
     
  15. dahoo

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    maybe somebody can just buy the complete cartridge and sell the body. ATN150sa for 168 seems more reasonable.
     
  16. dahoo

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    Didn't know at160ml stylus has a color like atn140, i thought it was only brownish.
     
  17. JP

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    +1. I had to put this one on a brown box to show the color in the picture, otherwise it looked black.

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  18. RonniB

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    I understand that beauty and value is in the eye (or ears) of the beholder. Recently, I acquired an NOS ATN15ss stylus and a NOS ATN15 stylus. I paid 150 Euros for the ATN15ss and 130 Euros for the ATN15. That's a bit of lunch money for me, but the resultant sounds are so well worth the $$...and they're not even "broken in" yet. I have one more ATN15 and an ATN155lc to obtain, and then I'll be set for whatever remaining years I can still waddle to my TT and play a record. I can't justify any MC carts, but the detail these MMs render makes me believe I've hit my personal sweet spot.

    just my $0.02
     
  19. 62caddy

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    One of my regrets was not buying up as many 440MLa cartridges when they were selling new for $99 on Amazon back in '10. :(

    Well at least I got one and could not be happier with it. I recently ran it through a battery of tests with the aid of Stereo Review Test Record and an oscilloscope and the results by far exceeded my expectations. It's real forte is its tracking ability which is beyond criticism.

    If you can find one, I would recommend an Audio Technica 440MLa without reservation. Even at $200, it's still well worth it, IMO.
     
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    My wife asked what I was reading so I read her part of this post.
    She said, 'He must an Einstein.'
    I said, 'No he is a Needlestein.'
    We both got a good laugh.
     

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