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Mc402 Vs. Mc452

Discussion in 'McIntosh Audio' started by quartersaw, Apr 21, 2018.

  1. kevzep

    kevzep Its all about the Music

    You'll never know what you're missing out on.......:D
     
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  2. gmc

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    Hey quartersaw, how would you compare your MC452 to your strapped MC2300s? I'm asking because I currently have dual MC2300s, which I love, but am considering updating. I just want to be sure that it also means upgrading.

    I have briefly demoed a couple of newer McIntosh amps, in-store, and loved them, but haven't had the chance to hear them in my system, and compare. Since you have, I'm interested in your opinion.
     
  3. quartersaw

    quartersaw Well-Known Member

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    I don't run my 2300's strapped anymore, but the '452 has very smooth mids, and highs, and is dead quiet. The bass response is cleaner, as well.
    The amp is so distortion free (even at very high volume) it feels like it isn't as 'loud' as the 2300. When running the '452 with blinking power guard lights, my adjacent bathroom had a number of items that fell off of the shelves - which never happened when running the strapped Mc2300's at a very 'crisp' level.
    The Mc452 has a very linear frequency presentation relative to the 2300, which to my ears, means that the 2300 gets brighter in sound, as the volume reaches for the sky...
    I'm keeping one of my Mc2300's, simply because it is still a great sounding amp. The Mc452 however, is a completely different animal...
     
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  4. kevzep

    kevzep Its all about the Music

    Excellent comparison!!
    You put a MC452 in the mix, and you'll never know what hit you!!
     
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    Man I'm going to start stockpiling MC2300s, I'll have the wall of sound in no time.
     
  6. gmc

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    I didn't say I was getting rid of the MC2300s.
     

     

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  7. 4-2-7

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    Well be that way:p hog...

    Just trying to corner the market here
     
  8. gmc

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    Ha!
     
  9. damacman

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    Well, you'll need (48) of 'em ... And a few MI350s! And to think two Lab Gruppen amps in 4 rack spaces would be more powerful ... Crazy.

    I was telling Greg that I'll soon be repurposing my MC2300s ... Not selling, just moving them.
     
  10. quartersaw

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    Strap ‘em in the Cutlass! :)
     
  11. MACKIE1975

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    If you shine the flash light on the MC452 glass panel then you can see a network of artifact (fiber optics) around the meters especially around the logo.
     

     

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  12. JosephH

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    I was looking at my MC452 recently and noticed that they have done a really nice job improving the illumination since they built my MX-136. Not only brighter, but better color rendering and much more even light dispersal. This is especially true around the logo.
     
  13. MACKIE1975

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    The B&W 803 is singing loud and clear.

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  14. jdwk

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    I just started reading this thread, I blame both Kev and Rick for my recently purchased 452. but ya know I couldn't be happier. I got a C50 to go with it. it is less fatiguing than the MC 2500 C33 combo. it is really great. I do think they knocked it out of the park with the 452. Here's hoping soon yet another 452 will be bought by an Aker. but to have that thing turned up so loud the PG lights come on? wow you are crazy! lol
     
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  15. kevzep

    kevzep Its all about the Music

    Thanks man!! There you go!!
    I have seen that picture of the 452 meter pegged like that before I think its been lifted from somewhere......got the old meter hold on, and a quick burst without the speakers connected....good times..
     
  16. MACKIE1975

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    When the "boss" at the gym.

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  17. quartersaw

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    When I first acquired my '452, I was bouncing the meters into the 900w. area for several days. ..More like the 5W to 45w. region these days. :)
     
  18. grillebilly

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    Yeah, I have plenty of blame to spread around for getting one, too. Even Kenny (jdwk), who got one after I did, was directing me away from tubes into high power SS. I have yet to go past 50 watts. With the Tekton Double Impacts, half a watt is normal listening, 5 watts is loud and 10 watts is loud upstairs. 50 and you can't hear the person screaming at you to turn it down.
    No complaints about the investment, though. When I first got it I could not believe how much the sound improved over a MC275 VI. It changed everything. My system went from sounding very good to breathtaking.
     
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  19. MACKIE1975

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    The B&W 803 is rated at 50W - 250W into 8 ohm on unclipped so I will keep the meter at that level.
     

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