Thislilfishy
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...right round baby right round.....
Hehe...new guy here. I have had a fondness for audio gear for quite some time, and loved the late 70's to early 80's stuff. Lots of switches, dials, and needles everywhere! I am not a fan of the new plastic stuff, although I must admit some of the more expensive modern stuff does sound fantastic.
So just recently I got the urge to splurge! Decided my house needs a proper stereo again....and remembering a fondness for a certain hot babysittter when I was much younger and her console stereo system, that I listened the heck out of the Breakfast In America record on (yeah yeah, vinyl...my bad) with headphones on, I rushed right out and overspent for one.
What I purchased is a bit of a quandary. It's labelled as "Glenwood by Studiotone". The unit is a very heavy Teak veneer, with some minor water marks (likely hold my beer moments) but with no other imperfections. It contains a Dual 1010 turntable (turns but needs servicing, tone arm not dropping and when set to manual won't shut off, haven't checked RPM yet). The speakers appear to be 10" woofers, 4" mids, and horn tweeters. I haven't opened the speaker compartments yet which are completely enclosed and are ported at the bottom with about 4" ports.
Now for the mystery bit, the receiver. The manual is calling it a StudioTone T170 by Korting. The face of the unit states 'Solid State Stereo FET 170'. Inside there is a "Made In Canada" sticker but not much more for identifiers. The seller said that the AM was not working but everything else was (hey...what about the turntable??). But by the time I got there, there was no FM either which he claimed he was listening to the entire day before. Well, I thought, this cabinet is crazy solid and looks amazing (some minor blemishes...but nothing you could notice without looking very close). The seller says his grandparents purchased it in 1963 new, but the label in the back may indicate 1967 manufacture date, but does confirm the Teak finish.
Home FINALLY!: So I said screw it...and bought it...knocked $60 off his asking price (I knew something was up when he said the AM wasn't working...so I assumed there was more to it). I still paid way too much...but such is life, the heart wants what the heart wants. So, I get it powered up, no lights, but 6Vac at bulbs. Same as at the sellers place, no AM, FM, FM Stereo, or SW (that's right...shortwave...suck it). However, I am getting Phono input (this unit has a phono input and phono pre-amp input) via the finger scratch methods (cartridge got munched in transit so no LP test). The tape input also worked using my phone as an input device. The base was very muddy...actually it was all muddy, but I have experienced this when using the 'headphone out' to 'tape in' on a couple receivers so I wasn't surprise. The volume wasn't amazing but it made me smile anyhow.
So here I am, I really want to make this console sing again, and I intend on repairing the turntable (I know, maybe replace with a 1200 series or something...but heck...let's fix this first). This thing has a metric crap-tonne of caps, and carbon resistors. Seriously, by the time a hunt down the problem, I may as well replace it all which could take months given my work schedule. I am pretty sure that two of the power caps have packed it in, and who knows where from there. The other three power caps are holding 9v forever, but I haven't confirmed the two suspects don't have sink resistors on them yet.
So on one hand I would love to keep this console original, but no matter how hard I look I can't find any info on this unit...so how do I set the bias on it if I don't know the test point!? Then my second thought....I could get my hands on a realistic STA-2000 or pioneer SX-790 right now...remember I like the buttons, switches and dials?
SO you tell me, do I attempt to fix the old studiotone, do I replace with the 70-80's era gear that I love, or GASP....I have my eye on the Sony HAP-S1 which would connect with my media library so nicely. I figure at that point I will dig into the speaker boxes and see what's what in there....but first I must make music to justify the cost to the CFO in the house. The way the console is built I would say the receiver had a housing, but was removed from the housing and bottom mounted to the console near the record storage area (I have to remove a cover where you see the bare wood to get at the screws holding the receiver in place). So really, anything with a similar face dimension could be mounted in this cabinet and no one would be the wiser.
Thanks for reading all this...and if anyone has any input I am all for it...really at the end of the day I want to rock the house with this console and maybe a pair of external speakers.....and I am betting this existing receiver back in the 60's was mid level at best then....and not going to do what I want anyway with a rebuild. Given that the Dual 1010 was mid=low level at the time. It's amazing how robust the cabinet is though.
Some internals of the Korting Unit
Amplifiers S2003-1 x 4 (2n type with very small heatsink plate)
Drivers 6729 x 2 and 6722 x 2
Any idea on the power output?
Edit: sorry editted to hopefully make this a bit easier to read...beer...it's a slippery slope.
Ian
Hehe...new guy here. I have had a fondness for audio gear for quite some time, and loved the late 70's to early 80's stuff. Lots of switches, dials, and needles everywhere! I am not a fan of the new plastic stuff, although I must admit some of the more expensive modern stuff does sound fantastic.
So just recently I got the urge to splurge! Decided my house needs a proper stereo again....and remembering a fondness for a certain hot babysittter when I was much younger and her console stereo system, that I listened the heck out of the Breakfast In America record on (yeah yeah, vinyl...my bad) with headphones on, I rushed right out and overspent for one.
What I purchased is a bit of a quandary. It's labelled as "Glenwood by Studiotone". The unit is a very heavy Teak veneer, with some minor water marks (likely hold my beer moments) but with no other imperfections. It contains a Dual 1010 turntable (turns but needs servicing, tone arm not dropping and when set to manual won't shut off, haven't checked RPM yet). The speakers appear to be 10" woofers, 4" mids, and horn tweeters. I haven't opened the speaker compartments yet which are completely enclosed and are ported at the bottom with about 4" ports.
Now for the mystery bit, the receiver. The manual is calling it a StudioTone T170 by Korting. The face of the unit states 'Solid State Stereo FET 170'. Inside there is a "Made In Canada" sticker but not much more for identifiers. The seller said that the AM was not working but everything else was (hey...what about the turntable??). But by the time I got there, there was no FM either which he claimed he was listening to the entire day before. Well, I thought, this cabinet is crazy solid and looks amazing (some minor blemishes...but nothing you could notice without looking very close). The seller says his grandparents purchased it in 1963 new, but the label in the back may indicate 1967 manufacture date, but does confirm the Teak finish.
Home FINALLY!: So I said screw it...and bought it...knocked $60 off his asking price (I knew something was up when he said the AM wasn't working...so I assumed there was more to it). I still paid way too much...but such is life, the heart wants what the heart wants. So, I get it powered up, no lights, but 6Vac at bulbs. Same as at the sellers place, no AM, FM, FM Stereo, or SW (that's right...shortwave...suck it). However, I am getting Phono input (this unit has a phono input and phono pre-amp input) via the finger scratch methods (cartridge got munched in transit so no LP test). The tape input also worked using my phone as an input device. The base was very muddy...actually it was all muddy, but I have experienced this when using the 'headphone out' to 'tape in' on a couple receivers so I wasn't surprise. The volume wasn't amazing but it made me smile anyhow.
So here I am, I really want to make this console sing again, and I intend on repairing the turntable (I know, maybe replace with a 1200 series or something...but heck...let's fix this first). This thing has a metric crap-tonne of caps, and carbon resistors. Seriously, by the time a hunt down the problem, I may as well replace it all which could take months given my work schedule. I am pretty sure that two of the power caps have packed it in, and who knows where from there. The other three power caps are holding 9v forever, but I haven't confirmed the two suspects don't have sink resistors on them yet.
So on one hand I would love to keep this console original, but no matter how hard I look I can't find any info on this unit...so how do I set the bias on it if I don't know the test point!? Then my second thought....I could get my hands on a realistic STA-2000 or pioneer SX-790 right now...remember I like the buttons, switches and dials?
SO you tell me, do I attempt to fix the old studiotone, do I replace with the 70-80's era gear that I love, or GASP....I have my eye on the Sony HAP-S1 which would connect with my media library so nicely. I figure at that point I will dig into the speaker boxes and see what's what in there....but first I must make music to justify the cost to the CFO in the house. The way the console is built I would say the receiver had a housing, but was removed from the housing and bottom mounted to the console near the record storage area (I have to remove a cover where you see the bare wood to get at the screws holding the receiver in place). So really, anything with a similar face dimension could be mounted in this cabinet and no one would be the wiser.
Thanks for reading all this...and if anyone has any input I am all for it...really at the end of the day I want to rock the house with this console and maybe a pair of external speakers.....and I am betting this existing receiver back in the 60's was mid level at best then....and not going to do what I want anyway with a rebuild. Given that the Dual 1010 was mid=low level at the time. It's amazing how robust the cabinet is though.
Some internals of the Korting Unit
Amplifiers S2003-1 x 4 (2n type with very small heatsink plate)
Drivers 6729 x 2 and 6722 x 2
Any idea on the power output?
Edit: sorry editted to hopefully make this a bit easier to read...beer...it's a slippery slope.
Ian
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