nocluejimbo
Active Member
Anyone seen a C356BEE up for grabs? This thread and other recent ravings have me very interested, especially when including the phono module.
NAD C-356BEE- Ohhhhh...Emmmmm...Geeeeee
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Catcher10
Prog-tastic!
The PP375 module is pretty darn nice, its quiet and very detailed and performs well over its $200 price. Plus being a module it does not take any inputs away, no need for a power plug or extra cables.
I have not used the MC side of it so no opinion there.
Congratulations on the improvement. I wonder if it was more in the preamp or more in power amp side of things.
If your integrated has preamp/amp jumpers it might be interesting to try the NAD as preamp with the Sony as power amp and then the Marantz as preamp with the NAD as power amp to see what sort of improvement happens where.
If your integrated has preamp/amp jumpers it might be interesting to try the NAD as preamp with the Sony as power amp and then the Marantz as preamp with the NAD as power amp to see what sort of improvement happens where.
estreeter
Super Member
Ironic that so many audiophiles get their noses out of joint when they see tone or loudness controls on an amplifier, but then I guess that's to be expected when some still get upset when they see a volume control on an amp :scratch2:
We are Marantz - resistance is futile
avanti1960
Well-Known Member
Not very many and virtually no discounts to be found. I tend to believe this is usually good sign when researing for an audio purchase.
estreeter
Super Member
Marantz is a bit unusual in that respect - on the down side, they insist on retaining the two-prong plug, even on their reference components. I cant for the life of me think why this is, and I'm not aware of any other serious hi-fi manufacturer who does this.
While I'm not enthralled with this video, there is a potential fix for the two-prong issue and a host of other tips for improving SQ with Marantz gear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPI_ByD0Q0
While I'm not enthralled with this video, there is a potential fix for the two-prong issue and a host of other tips for improving SQ with Marantz gear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPI_ByD0Q0
avanti1960
Well-Known Member
Agreed, this is a worthwhile experiment. The sony is sold though and the sound was similar to the Marantz receiver but cleaner and louder. Most likely from the preamp. The pre out jumpers was another plus for the NAD but so far I find no need for a power upgrade.
avanti1960
Well-Known Member
The new Yamaha amps have variable loudness, fyi.
Thankfully so far I have no need for any kind of tone adjustment, first time in a long time where my amp, speakers and room all seem perfectly matched.
PAGS
Super Member
How about a factory "refurb":
http://www.spearitsound.com/Integrated_Amplifiers-NAD_C_356Bee_Refurbished.html
Catcher10
Prog-tastic!
Avanti1960...one inexpensive upgrade you should get is to replace the pre/main jumpers to some better ones, you will notice some improvement after about 100 hours.
The Audio Quest ones are very good, I use these.
komoyuki
Super Member
Avanti1960...one inexpensive upgrade you should get is to replace the pre/main jumpers to some better ones, you will notice some improvement after about 100 hours.
The Audio Quest ones are very good, I use these.
I have the very same Catcher and it is indeed a good improvement which cost nothing.
sax6
Loudness always ON
While it's says '' loudness '' on the Yammie, to my ear, it just tends to drop
the mids to, in some manner, boost the lows and highs.
Like an EQ in attenuation mode.
A real ( no harm meant to Yamaha ) loudness, boosts the lows and highs while retaining the mids at the same level òr so.
But that is out of topic for now...
nocluejimbo
Active Member
That is a great price. Thanks for the find!
I would definitely agree with that - just looking to save a few bucks if possible!
frankbooth
Super Member
There is a 372 bee on BT for a great price.
noafl
noafl
avanti1960
Well-Known Member
That was the only discounted unit i could find.
I would recommend to search for the site's business rating before buying.
avanti1960
Well-Known Member
Are you guys sure the amp wasn't burning in more?
I have a hard time believing in the value of these jumpers, please no offense.
They are only conducting (2) parts of the circuit for each channel, one of them being chassis ground (outer conductor) which is routed internally on the amplifier's chassis.
The other (the center conductor) has such a short run that it is hard to imagine any decent solid core conductor material would be subjected to any current loss, voltage drop or noise.
PAGS
Super Member
5 stars on Amazon; 5 stars on Yelp. Seems top shelf to me. Are you aware of something ugly lurking out there?
avanti1960
Well-Known Member
I thought I saw an unauthorized dealer warning along with other potential issues but I rechecked and that site no longer lists them with issues.
