Nelson Pass F5 Part Deux

qboneus

Senior Member
Inspired by Jeff's F5 thread I had to start my own project.
Rather than crap his thread i am posting a different build of the same amplifier using some different components.
I started with MMmetals heatsinks 6.5"x12.25"x2.3"
(SurfaceArea sq"/1") 96.972

www.mmmetals.com/extrusions/drawings/MK62430.JPG

Par-metals EMI/RF shielded enclosure.
http://www.par-metal.com/14series.htm

Acme/Amveco 400Va 18Vx2 audio grade power transformer.
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&site=US&KeyWords=TE60403-ND&x=17&y=11

WBT Binding posts
http://www.wbtusa.com/pages/0765m.html

and RCA's
http://www.wbtusa.com/pages/0201t.html
I sourced the Semiconductors at
http://www.tech-diy.com/Store/CloneKits.htm
power entry module.
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/D..._link=hp_go_button&KeyWords=Q305-ND&x=25&y=13
24V 19mm indicator.
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=679-1745-ND
High performance entry power filter.
http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&site=US&KeyWords=603-1147-ND
enough of the starting details here's a few build pictures!
Here I am tapping the heatsinks out to a 10-24 N.C threading.
F5Build003.jpg

i had to cut out the side panels and build stand-offs to place the heatsinks away from the top edge of the sides so that the top can be placed on.
F5Build006.jpg

then I mounted the heatsinks to the side of the enclosure utilizing 8 10-24 1/2" fasteners per heatsink.
F5Build009.jpg

i cut the openings a little over on the edges of the hs on the sides to try and improve circulation and mounted the heatsinks to the enclosure
F5Build020.jpg

I am going to need to cut some ventilation into the top as well.
Next I cut in the Binding posts, RCA's and power entry module
F5Build021.jpg

followed by my 19mm indicator light.
F5Build022.jpg

F5Build029.jpg

I have everything else needed and a few upgrades :yes:already standing by, but I am awaiting my PCB's to be able to proceed any further..
F5Build034.jpg

hopefully they should arrive here from Canada on monday..
Resistors are IRC .1% precision resistors with exception of a few 'select' positions that I decided to upgrade to better resistors yet..
more to follow shortly.
tal
 
Nice Tal... cool that I can watch this over again. I love my F5 and have been listening to it every night for the past month while my MC225 is being rebuilt.

It's going to be weird going back, I think.
 
Wired in the Transformer, Filters, and Bridge recti-fires:D
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F5Build041.jpg

close up of the BR wiring.
F5Build043.jpg

Wide shot of enclosure and power components
F5Build051.jpg

being the brave overconfident sort, I skipped the variac and went directly to testing the filter, transformer, and rectifiers.
F5Build049.jpg

Guess I did something right!
F5Build061.jpg

Now if canada post can get me the damn boards!!
Not sure what more I can do until the boards get here:tears:
thanks for your comments.
cheers
Tal
 
beauty... I hate waiting for parts.

Are you going to tap the heatsinks in place or pull it apart again?
 
I will pull it to tap.
Boards arrived today and I am rapidly populating them.
F5Build077.jpg

F5Build070.jpg

F5Build076.jpg

F5Build078.jpg

F5Build074.jpg

F5Build067.jpg

next, on to the semi's!!
cheers,
tal
 
Powersupply in and wired..
for the picture is worth a thousand words people here is the wiring between bridges and PSU

F5Build006-1.jpg

F5Build004-1.jpg

Red is + off of both BR's and Black is -
F5Build007-1.jpg

F5Build010-1.jpg
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More to follow.
tal
 
The caps match the board nicely. I got a stiff neck trying to read the manufacturer of the caps. I can see that they are made in the USA, CD perhaps?
 
Sorry, yes they are CD caps.
mocked up both driver boards and getting ready for placement.
F5Build002-2.jpg

F5Build001-1.jpg

I will include more partslists shortly..
happy listening,
tal
 
Tal, make sure you solder the outputs LAST, don't flex those pads at all.

My boards just hang from the outputs..... nice work!
 
Tal, make sure you solder the outputs LAST, don't flex those pads at all.

My boards just hang from the outputs..... nice work!
will do, thanks buddy.

more partslist as promised..

Caps..
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...2virtualkey59850000virtualkey5985-85-50V15000
pots
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...virtualkey65210000virtualkey652-3296W-1-502LF
thermistor
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...2Jvirtualkey59250000virtualkey871-B57891M472J
.47ohm 3watt resistors
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...2Jvirtualkey59250000virtualkey871-B57891M472J
ztx550 semi's
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ZTX550virtualkey52230000virtualkey522-ZTX550
ztx450
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=ZTX450virtualkey52230000virtualkey522-ZTX450
thermal paste
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=350Gvirtualkey53210000virtualkey532-350
3 watt .47ohm resistors
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=350Gvirtualkey53210000virtualkey532-350
Bridge rectifiers
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...51virtualkey61370000virtualkey625-GBPC3502-E4
assorted resistors..
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...Bvirtualkey66200000virtualkey66-RC55LF-D-100K
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...-Bvirtualkey66200000virtualkey66-RC55LF-D-10K
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...Bvirtualkey66200000virtualkey66-RC55LF-D-2.2K
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...-Bvirtualkey66200000virtualkey66-RC55LF-D-150
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...B-Bvirtualkey66200000virtualkey66-RC55LF-D-10
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=43F100Evirtualkey58810000virtualkey588-43F100E
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...irtualkey61300000virtualkey71-PTF651K0000BYBF
http://www.mouser.com/Search/Produc...Fvirtualkey66000000virtualkey660-MF1/4CL47R0F
more to follow...
tal
 
'Rounding the home stretch

F5Build010-2.jpg

F5Build005-2.jpg

F5Build011-1.jpg

F5Build009-2.jpg

Just need to finish thermistors and input wiring and then it's on to adjustment and clean-up!!
cheers,
tal
 
Finished with assembly, testing, and adjustment

all put together and ready to test.
F5testing016.jpg

F5testing022.jpg

F5testing011.jpg

after initial adjustments..
F5testing007.jpg

And after 6 hours run-in re-tested
F5testing008.jpg

My heatsinks are more than adequate, after 6 hours I can hold my hand on the HS indefinitely.
Tomorrow i will do some more clean up, run in and testing followed by some critical listening.
It really is a great sounding amplifier:thmbsp:
cheers,
tal
 
very nice build Tal. I've grown very fond of my F5.

What are the overall dimensions of the case including heatsinks?
 
very nice build Tal. I've grown very fond of my F5.

What are the overall dimensions of the case including heatsinks?
22"x17"x7", it certainly isn't little :no: but it is really sweet sounding:yes:
I did away with the testing speakers this morning and hooked her up to one of my a past DIY projects.
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http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=197508

And am listening to the combo right now; it is surely excellent!!!:thmbsp::thmbsp:
once i have time to clean her up i'll post some final pictures; but right now it's time for some listening :music:
thanks for the compliments.
cheers,
tal
 
Checked Dc offset after 48 hours continuous run and Left was at 1.3Mv Right was at 1.1Mv!
Good enough for a graduation from the DIY morel speakers to the klipsch Cornwall III.
My thoughts?
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WOW!! just Stellar!
This amp is well worth the work.
I can see why it has the following it does:thmbsp:
cheers,
tal
 
Yep, my F5 has been admirably filling in for my MC225 whilst away at summer camp. I just got word that it will be back soon and the F5 will go back to driving the Cornwalls. Its a very sweet combination.

I can't recommend the F5 enough. If you can't build one, find someone to do it for you or buy a commercial version. Even at the higher prices it is a bargain.
 
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