So I'm still up (don't ask) and I get this email from Kipsch about the new Forte III. Interested, I opened it up. Great special edition in colors I don't like for 2000 each. No info on the regular edition, I was wondering if pricing would be better. But behold, the specs are up. I know the specs for the I and the II (since they've always been my favorites) so I check and I have immediate disappointment. They "nerfed" the speakers. I don't know how they did it, 12 in woofer check, new midrange design with titanium drivers (hopefully big magnets and not like the Heresy) check, the Heresy tweeter (what I expected) check and the large 15 in passive check. So everything the same as the IIs (don't expect the midrange to be much better since new horn designs is just a marketing ploy) except the frequency range. The ones go from 32hz to 20khz and I can verify with my 20 year old ears back in 85 that you can hear the difference in bass and only the Klipschorns went lower. The IIs also go from 32hz to 20khz but have better efficiency at 99 db at 1 watt vs 98 db for the Is. The new 2000 dollar III only go from 38hz to 20khz with the same efficiency as the IIs. Why would I spend 4000 for a speaker that is not the Forte that I have always loved??? I'm guessing that they didn't want to the Forte to compete with the Cornwall nor the La Scala which sell for more but the Forte was always better on specs and people bought what sounded good to them. I would like to hear them but I would like to hear them next to a Forte I and then laugh at the Klipsch staff. Boo for Voxx.