Official Grateful Dead Thread

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  1. TudorTurtle

    TudorTurtle Well-Known Member

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    I agree, it's bass heavy, one of the few recordings that I have to adjust bass down & treble up.
    I was at the farmhouse this week, all alone with the big system and a big martini, and it was great.
     
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  2. musichal

    musichal poet emeritus Subscriber

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    My favorite albums were always the studio versions. American Beauty, Workingman's Dead, Wake of the Flood, Blues for Allah, Shakedown Street. The first time I heard one of their live albums (don't recall which) was at a buddy's house, and I didn't like it at all. Not long after, I met a Deadhead who'd been to a lot of their concerts and had dozens of cassette tapes he'd recorded, and they were horrible, I thought. I listened occasionally to a couple tracks from various live albums over the years, but they never really grabbed me. WOTF and BFA got a lot of play time back then.

    However, I like quite a few live albums by other artists. So this morning I Spoti-searched and discovered a confusing wealth of the Dead live. Chose one, basically at random, and wasn't impressed. So I scanned through this thread, skipping pages, but saw the albums favored by various AKers and also browser-searched the topic. All this led me to Europe 72, 5-8-77 Cornell, OFTV and Live Dead and I've been listening to those.

    OFTV and 5-8-77 Cornell seem to be my two favorites, with OFTV the favored thus far. Have a feeling I'll be listening to these two a good bit for a time. Thanks for all the posts, 'heads.


    EDIT, 12 HRS LATER: Listening to OFTV again. Those who praised its SQ got that right. Next thing you know I'll be ordering wireless headphones so I can twirl.
     
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  3. eljr

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    just substitute Live Dead for Shakedown and well, we can shake! :beerchug:
     
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  4. hjames

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    Don't miss out on "Reckoning" (aka "For the Faithful…")
    acoustic material recorded live in September and October 1980 ...
    a bit bluegrassy, its some of my favorite tracks
     
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  5. Sam Cogley

    Sam Cogley Last of the Time Lords Subscriber

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    It's maybe a bit more in a standard pop/rock vein than most of the Dead's work, but I've always had a huge soft spot for "In the Dark." American Beauty and Workingman's Dead are absolute masterpieces.
     
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  6. wharf rat

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    Live Dead was my first album and remains my favorite. For studio put me on the list for Workingman's. Easy Wind! New Speedway Boogie! Enough said.
     
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  8. mfrench

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    Jerry Garcia Band
    1987-12-04 (night two)
    Wiltern Theater
    Los Angeles, Ca
    Acoustic and Electric

    Analog Ambient Recording by Moke
    TFH -- A Journey to the Impact Zone
    Sennheiser MKE2002 as AB omni stereo "Hat Trick"
    Sony WM-D6C
    Floor, center, just below balcony edge; rear of open floor seating.
    Strictly No Recording Concerts
     
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  9. mfrench

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  10. mfrench

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    https://archive.org/details/gd1989-02-11.fob.french.35158.sbeok.flac24
    https://archive.org/details/gd1989-02-11.fob.french.sirmick.76125.sbeok.flac16

    Grateful Dead
    1989-02-11 (day two)
    Live at Great Western Forum on
    1989-02-11


    Set 1
    Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
    New Minglewood Blues
    Candyman
    Big River
    Built To Last
    Queen Jane Approximately
    We Can Run
    Bird Song

    Set 2
    China Cat Sunflower ->
    I Know You Rider ->
    Man Smart (Woman Smarter)
    Standing On The Moon
    Estimated Prophet ->
    I Will Take You Home ->
    Drums* ->
    Space ->
    Eyes Of The World** ->
    I Need A Miracle ->
    Black Peter ->
    Turn On Your Lovelight
    Encore
    Box Of Rain

    * w/ Airto Moreira, Flora Purim, and Diana Moreira

    Source:
    Set one: Sennheiser MKE2002 HRTF headband -> Sony TC-D5M @ 6'5" by Mike French
    Set two; ~ Schoeps cmc?? cards (caps on bodies, cardioids) ORTF @ 6'4" covered by the Mike Stand (MF) at eye level. ~ Oade pre (m118 ?) -> Sony PCM processor->beta, line out (Sean Weber Small rig) -> Sony TC-D5M master by Mike French
    Lineage to digital: Sony TC-D5M master deck w/ master, no n.r. -> Tascam DVRA1000 DSD recorder in high-res pcm mode, 24/96 by Mike French
     
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  11. mfrench

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    https://archive.org/details/gd1989-02-12.fob.french.sirmick.76126.sbeok.flac16
    https://archive.org/details/gd1989-02-12.fob.french.31265.sbeok.flac24

    Grateful Dead
    Live at Great Western Forum
    1989-02-12 (day three)

    Set 1
    Cold Rain And Snow
    Hell In A Bucket
    Row Jimmy
    Beat It On Down The Line ->
    The Promised Land
    West L.A. Fadeaway
    How Long Blues*
    Gimme Some Lovin'*

    Set 2
    Iko Iko**
    Monkey And The Engineer**
    Alabama Getaway**
    Dire Wolf**
    Cassidy**
    Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again**
    Drums ->
    Space ->
    The Other One*** ->
    Stella Blue ->
    Foolish Heart
    Encore
    Not Fade Away**
    Knockin' On Heaven's Door**

    *with Spencer Davis
    **with Bob Dylan
    ***with Kodo drummer
    final/last "How Long Blues": 08-19-70 [1236] -
    final/last "Monkey & Engineer": 10-16-81 [495]
    **** d2t08 note: Tracked as one single track, because the Other One was riffed on immediately out of drums.

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    Sean Weber Small rig, Schoeps cmc?? (cardioid caps on mic bodies)ORTF -> Oade pre (m118?) -> Sony F1/Beta rig, line out -> Sony TC-D5M analog cassette master by Mike French.
    From FOB/DFC. Mics at 6'5", at eye level to Fike rench, covering the mics. The other mics were Neumann km84's, ortf-> Neu. p48v -> Sony TC-D5M @ 6'4"
    LineageSony TC-D5M master deck w/ master tape, no n.r. -> Tascam DVRA1000 DSD in PCM mode 24/96
     
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  12. Skylab

    Skylab Altimeter reading zero Subscriber

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    I was at that 89 Forum run. Really fun shows.
     
  13. mfrench

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    Did you do both the Feb. and Dec. run of shows?
    As recordists, "tapers", we had these Forum runs dialed in. We had recruited enough people to tightly pack a circle of probably 30' ->35' diameter; seriously, 75 people in this area, or more, all dedicated to being quiet, and blocking drunken, drug spun "spunions", from crashing through the area where we were recording. At the intermission, and drums/space migration points, we were like this giant boulder in the river, with blockers splitting the flow around us. We were on center, and probably 25->30' in front of the soundboard, right at the Impact Zone point. I'm always shocked just how quiet the immediate area around us was in these recordings.
     
  14. wharf rat

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    I too was at the Feb run. 3rd night had really intense energy. These were my first wharf rat shows. It was three years before I felt comfortable going to shows again. Still going strong 30 years.
     
  15. Skylab

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    Only the Feb run. I live in Chicago ;)

    All 3 nights did, I think. 89 was a great year for the band.
     
  16. mfrench

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    here we go again...

    https://archive.org/details/gd1990-05-06_carson_bk4011_1644flac/

    Grateful Dead
    May 06, 1990 sunday
    Cal State Dominguez Hell (106 degrees - HOT!)
    Carson, CA

    Set 1
    Mississippi Half Step,
    Feel Like A Stranger,
    Easy To Love You,
    West L.A. Fadeaway,
    When I Paint My Masterpiece,
    Candyman,
    Victim Or The Crime,
    Foolish Heart

    Set 2
    Iko Iko,
    Samson & Delilah,
    The Weight,
    Blow Away,
    Terrapin Station->
    Drums->
    Jam->
    The Other One->
    Standing On the Moon->
    Throwing Stones,
    Turn On Your Love Light,
    E: The Last Time

    Ambient recording by Tom Tech twiddlin' the knobs (Tom D.), and Mike French covering the mics at 6'6"

    Lots and lots of very quiet friends and other tapers amongst us! (Sean W-S., Ted M., John C., Rich B., likely others).
    We had a huge quiet zone staked out with lots of very quiet friends and blockers. This was a focused effort with a lot of dedicated folks.
    Bruel and Kjaer B&K 4011 cardioids as ORTF stereo at 17cm spacing @ 110-degrees combined off-axis response
    Neumann p48v power pack
    Sony TCD-D10 DAT 1648
    From: FOB/DFC (Front of Board, Dead F'n Center)

    So hot! Baking in the sun.
    We arrived to the lot, and, got in line early in the morning, and spent the morning and afternoon waiting in line, cooking on asphalt in 106-degree sun.
    A friend of ours passed out during the show due to the heat. I had brought in a white cotton bed sheet that I had cut a hole in the middle of, to create a white sun reflecting poncho. We covered her in the poncho, and poured water over her to try to cool her down. It worked, but was a pretty scary moment.
     
  17. jcamero

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    I still have my 7 ticket stubs from the concerts I attended. Except for 1, I remember them all, and oddly enough, I remember why I don't remember the one I didn't, (really good pot and really good Champagne). The best of the 7 was at the Uptown Theater in Chicago. They played the first set acoustic, and the second, electric. We had balcony seats, and really didn't need to light up, (second hand smoke). LIVE DEAD, didn't get much better!
     
  18. Mowgli

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  19. mfrench

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    Happy listening to Live Dead in Dominguez Hell.
    Cal State Dominguez Hills - Carson Ca
    May 05 and 06, 1990

    I’ll start with this out of place folder —
    Ambient B&K4011 upfront on LMA in Community Audio:
    https://archive.org/details/gd1990-05-06_carson_bk4011_1644flac

    Ambient B&K 4011 upfront — gd1990-05-05_b&k4011_1644flac
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/02x7wv4aqmy0g4i/AAD-h7x-XdgrkM-YMKUuX0oAa?dl=0

    FM KPFK — gd1990-05-05_fm-mf_1644flac
    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/uf0ad3n1vj9fb0k/AADF3jGaQG7ntc0POo6004Xva?dl=0
     
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  20. mfrench

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    Alladin Theater - Alladin Hotel
    Las Vegas, Nv
    Ambient Analog recording by KP, LP, MF, TR, J. St.J., T. St. J.,...
    Sennheiser MD421's DIN'ish mics handheld by MF (heavy!) -> Uher portable cassette -> Sony TC-D5
    Impact Zone
     
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