Ok here goes: One mans experience and opinion about the over sampling ripping of ALL HIS CDs ...

Discussion in 'Digital Sources' started by Bill Ferris, Feb 25, 2017.

  1. Bill Ferris

    Bill Ferris Super Member

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    Well awilla6, I was not blind, since I was standing in front of my sunroom`s DQ 10`s while selecting the OPPO`s up sampling, with no preconceived expectations of SQ improvements, or degradations..
    Nothing more than an experimental curiosity, as stated above.
    And, as I also stated above, I returned the OPPO 103`s S/PDIF setting back to 16/44.1 after running it at various higher sampling rates for 16hrs a day for a week as heard through 4 different room`s stereo`s throughout the day..

    I`m pretty much a homebody and at home for 99% of the day/evening.
    And these decades old, and in proper working order, familiar stereo systems were unchanged in any manner from before going to ripped digital music to present, so I have a pretty good sense of their SQ and any changes thereof.

    Take care.
    Kind regards, OKB
     
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  2. awillia6

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    For a minute there, I thought you might have something going other than psychoacoustics. Alas, the quest continues...
     
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  3. Bill Ferris

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    More than likely, the psycho aspect, than not !! :eek: + :crazy: HA !! :naughty:

    Thanks for your interest Sir.

    OKB
     
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    It's best to ignore the troll, Bill. Hmmm, should one plug his ears when watching upsampled DVD's? :rflmao:
     
  5. Bill Ferris

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    I guess that will work..
     
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  6. onwardjames

    onwardjames Hoardimus Maximus Subscriber

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    That's a bit of a backhanded insult, isn't it? Very unbecoming, sir.
     

     

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  7. Bill Ferris

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    It didn`t bother me at all Tim.

    BTW. how are you enjoying your better sounding playback rips, now that you seemed to have unleashed them from your computer ?
    Just curious, my friend.

    Take care Sir. and have a great weekend.
    Kind regards, OKB
     
  8. onwardjames

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    Bill, I am having a BALL! Everything just sounds better. I think I had the actual beta software powering that Meridian.

    She sings to me sweetly now. Have a great weekend yourself!
     
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  9. Bill Ferris

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    Well then very, very good my friend..:thumbsup:
    Enjoy, and rediscover some of your music, as I`m sure you are, & will. :music:

    Thank you, and I will try to have as great time as possible.. :beerchug:
     
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    There seems to be quite a bit of this thing going on lately. It seems some people can't let other people enjoy themselves. I've haven't used the "ignore" button yet, but I've been tempted.

    -Dave
     
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    I too, have noticed the snarkiness of late. If we all simply would live and let live.....
     
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  12. awillia6

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    It was more in the nature of asserting gentle, but firm skepticism. You folks here (in the main) know buckets about audio. Unfortunately, you know little of human psychology and seem to care even less about the pernicious effects of confirmation bias (both pro and con any given proposition).

    I keep waiting for a single one of you guys to do blind testing of the systems you're always fiddling with to gauge the qualitative effect objectively. I've been hoping that someday, one of you will report: "Eureaka! I blind tested my latest change, and I NAILED it 10/10 times TWICE in a row! Turns out ABC cables ARE demonstrably better than zip cord. So there!"

    Problem is, it never happens. But the confirmation bias? Oh, yeah. That's forever.

    (You may wish to check the OP's first sentence in his opening post in this thread.)
     
  13. IPADave

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    Do you just cut-and-paste these posts? What you should post is, "You're opinions, and experiences are wrong, because they differ from mine!"

    Peace.

    -Dave
     
  14. awillia6

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    Personal preferences are just that—personal. But truth claims are general and thus subject to empirical validation by others, including me (though apparently not thee).
     
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    I believe in science and empirical data, but isn't it conceivable that something is going on that we don't know how to measure? In any case, even if it is psychological, what's the harm and why rain on someone else's parade.

    -Dave
     
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    We're pretty good at precise and accurate measurement on the micro scale with statistical analysis acting as a machine that grinds out truth on the macro (population) scale. Between the two anvils, delusion is unable to survive for long except as purposeful (and costly) contrarian positions held by personally-fixated, fingers-in-the-ears types (NOT you!).

    (Sorry for the late edit; I didn't see your "Like")
     
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  17. IPADave

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    Indeed, but those are things we know how to measure.

    -Dave
     
  18. awillia6

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    Ever seen the brain scans of people performing various tasks? Think maybe stats could be applied to produce a "profile" of a test subject listening to music (same source, same volume, same same)? Then, how about introducing an audio system change and re-analyzing the resultant brain scans, again with stats. Difference in scans = difference in system. Or...
     
  19. IPADave

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    That would be an interesting experiment. Not to hijack Bill's thread but I'd like to ask you a question. Do think you that all amplifiers that measure the same sound the same?

    -Dave
     
  20. awillia6

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    Ask Bob Carver and the golden ears at Stereophile; in 1985, they put the proposition to the ultimate test. Carver generated a difference signal between his tunable 1.0 SS amp and a pair of high-end Conrad Johnson tube amps. He then tuned his amp until the difference signal was nulled to 70db (i.e. he "transformed" his $700 SS amp into the $6,000 Conrad Johnson Premier Four tube jobs just as he had done previously with a Mark Levinson unit). Both amps were then presented to the Sterophile gurus for them to listen to in SIGHTED tests. Uh-oh, no difference signal, no difference. After a few technical hiccups and fixes, they couldn't distinguish the two amps from one another and handed Carver his victory in the challenge. Here's the write-up: https://www.stereophile.com/content/carver-challenge

    What does that little parable tell you? Think about it for a while.
     

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