Ortofon 2M Red vs. Sumiko Bluepoint No.2

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  1. BmWr75

    BmWr75 Addicted Member

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    I have a H-K T30C TT running the 2M Red. Have a Bluepoint No.2 that is not in use. Anyone have experience with both on the same TT? If yes, which did you prefer?
     

     

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  2. Geoff777

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    If you have the time I would say your best bet would be to
    try it out and see what you think.
    Would be interesting to hear your findings
     
  3. Geoff777

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    If you have the time - I would say your best bet would be to try
    it out for yourself and see
    I would be quite interested to hear what you think....

    (edit:Sorry - my first post dissapeared then this duplication seemed to appear a day or 2 later)
     
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  4. specialidiot

    specialidiot Break Glass, Smoke Lucky

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    Having heard both... listen to them both. I have and preferred the Sumiko. More lively and open.
     
  5. Geoff777

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    It is important to match with the system
    I would imagine that the 2M red is quite bright and lively
    having heard the 2M Blue!
    Therefor I am imagining the Sumiko to be very bright and
    lively. If the system is already bright and/or lively - caution
    would be advised
     
  6. moon unit

    moon unit Active Member

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    Lively? Yes.

    Very bright? Not even close. The original Blue Point may have been bright but not the #2.
     

     

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  7. iLUVanalog

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    Agreed. I did not have a very good experience with the 2M Red. The Sumiko is superior.
     
  8. slippers-on

    slippers-on Music...let it move you!

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    So why would you compare a cart that cost $99 with a cart that cost $399.? Really does not make for a fair comparison.
     
  9. Isotonic

    Isotonic A Delicious Avocado Subscriber

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    Sometimes you can't put a dollar value on sonics. There are some very good values out there.
     
  10. trhee

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    I've always loved the Sumiko Blue Point line. While the 2M Red is a great budget cartridge and one that I prefer over the Shure M97XE, it falls short of the Blue Point.
     
  11. libertycaps

    libertycaps Analogue "AAA" vinyl.

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    ^This.
     

     

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  12. Geoff777

    Geoff777 Active Member

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    Having just caught up with some reviews
    it seems the Red is not as bright as I imagined -
    and not as good as the 2M Blue by a noticable degree
     
  13. Mr. Lin

    Mr. Lin Lunatic Member

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    True, sometimes, but if it's a "vs." comparison, it's not particularly fair to the Red. But that's ok, I always like to read peoples' impressions of cartridges, and comparisons to others, regardless of price.
     
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    @Mr. Lin: just wondering how you managed to remove the cover from your Dynavector. It looks more "professional" that way. Would you suggest that cartridge for a tonearm with no height adjustment?
     
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  15. BmWr75

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    Because, as stated in the OP, I own them both. The Red is installed on a H-K T30C. The Bluepoint is on the shelf (displaced by an EVO III). Based on the input, am going to swap out the Red for the Bluepoint No. 2.
     
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  16. releone71

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    BmWr75, if your Sumiko will definitely end to stand unused on a shelf, please advise me. I'd gladly give it a try in my Technics... ;)
     

     

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  17. BmWr75

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    Installed the Bluepoint No. 2 on the H-K today. A definite step up in sound quality.......but as someone said in an earlier post, it should be. Costs 4X as much as the 2M Red.
     
  18. slippers-on

    slippers-on Music...let it move you!

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    Well either the Red is very much under priced or the Blue point is way over priced.
     
  19. slippers-on

    slippers-on Music...let it move you!

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    Im sure it would
     
  20. slippers-on

    slippers-on Music...let it move you!

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    I have the 2MRed and its a very good cart after it gets broken in...the upper ranges settle down nicely.
     

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