PC as source component

Discussion in 'PCs & Music Servers' started by RobV, May 26, 2005.

  1. beanoil

    beanoil That's not how this works

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    I'm kind of talking to myself here, but, being bored off my butt today, I downloaded Linux Mint with Cinnamon. That took an hour and 15 minutes. I burned the ISO to DVD, and popped it in an old laptop from the pile of stuff in my basement.. Booted, found all the hardware unattended, even the on board wireless. I only mention that because I'm constantly amazed that an open source free download does what MS has not been able to do forever .Logged onto my network, so it got updates as it loaded. Took about 40 minutes. There is a tutorial on the JRiver site in the forum section on getting JRiver for Linux. 4 command line cut and paste in a terminal window later, I had JRiver on the Linux system. Took another 15 minutes for all that. Another 15 to move 5250 songs over to the library from my Canvio. Linux saw the Schiit when I plugged it in, and a quick selection for that as the audio (vs. internal speakers) and I was up and using it. It almost seems too easy this way, but for a casual user or the average Joe ( and maybe more than a few audiophiles), this was super easy and cheap. And I used a piece of hardware that really wasn't suited for anything past Vista. I think it stays with the spirit of AK, finding a piece of coal, and pressing it into a diamond. As always, YMMV.
     
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  2. doctorcilantro

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    How stable is JRMC on Linux?

    Friends here use on Mac, and it's still not stable.

    I find JRMC21 very stable on Win10. I am getting the most stable playback to my Vega DAC in EXACT clock mode, even doing PCM2DSD.
     
  3. beanoil

    beanoil That's not how this works

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    So far with about 10 hours on it, rock solid. Not a hiccup anywhere.
     
  4. beanoil

    beanoil That's not how this works

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    Still experimenting and playing. JRiver on Linux Mint is bulletproof. Many, many hours in now with out a glitch. I especially like being able to select a genre, and have it play a specific type of music, like "Christmas" for the holidays. I downloaded dbPoweramp for ripping, and went through a 21 day trial without a hitch. Ripped about 100 cd's to FLAC, it works perfectly, and would be worth the 39.00 . I am currently trying MusicBee for ripping, and Iike it too, although it is not as user friendly as dbP, it is free, and for a lot of folks, free is perfect, especially if it works. While looking ( I call it research, my lovely spouse calls it avoiding dusting....) I stumbled onto this: http://thewelltemperedcomputer.com/index.html. Straightforward instructions for all the current OS's and the various players available. I'm liking the AudiophileLinux post, and may throw another drive into the laptop to give it a run. Check out the Enjoy section, where he dismantles a few audiophile cables.... good for a laugh. To those easily offended, I apologize upfront. Some of the audiophile offerings are probably worthy, but some sure aren't.....
     
  5. doctorcilantro

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    Thanks for the report on Linux Mint. I tried that OS about 7 years ago, it was interesting!

    Did you have to install special drivers? I thought the benefit of Mint was it was really ready to go.
     
  6. uofmtiger

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    I just received a Windows10 laptop but have been mainly using Macs over the last several years, so I am rusty on how to get bit perfect in Windows. The last time I was on Windows full time, I remember using Foobar2000 and some sort of ASIO4ALL (or something like that) plug in. Is this still a requirement or can I just run iTunes or JRiver to a Dragonfly DAC and get bit perfect audio?
     
  7. +48V

    +48V hi-fi or die

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    Foobar.....Pretty sure you're after the WASAPI plugin.

    iTunes on 10? Maybe this hodgepodge will help...worked in 7.
     
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  8. uofmtiger

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    Thanks for the links. I was hoping it just worked out of the box at this point, but I will look into the itunes workaround since I know I will be using Apple Music with it and prefer having as few programs on it as possible. If I can't get into work, I will try Foobar for my local stuff.
     
  9. beanoil

    beanoil That's not how this works

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    Bored again today. Took an old HP mini form factor, stuck in a 90 gig SSD. Downloaded Daphile and created the USB stick. You need a full setup to start, keyboard, monitor, and hardwired network connection. It boots quick, and configures pretty easily. Hit F1 and clear the partitions on the drive, and tell it you want wireless. You'll need another browser to configure and manipulate anything from this point on. I used my everyday laptop. Install the software, it's a really small file. Reboot, and configure your wireless, and reboot again. Mine found my wireless, and gave an IP on the screen. Once you get there, you can run it headless.
    I plugged in a 2TB USB drive, and it automatically imports every music file into the library. The interface is not quite as slick as JRiver, BUT... it's completely free, and it's very good. It found my Schitt Modi, and configured playback to match it's capabilities.
    With nearly any piece of hardware, (small form Atom processor perhaps) you could be up and in the digital world in about 30 minutes. Shoot, this HP was bought off lease from a dealer for 40 dollars. and had enough memory, and a 250gb drive in it. This could be the cheapest way ever to get a CD ripper, playback, and streaming radio ever.
     
  10. beanoil

    beanoil That's not how this works

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    20160911_101447_Night.jpg Still bored, still playing.
    I bought a Kangaroo about a year ago, hoping to be able to work through a shared printer problem with Win7 and Win10. That didn't work out, and the Kangaroo sat on a shelf downstairs collecting dust.
    I grabbed it and a cuppa joe this morning, and loaded Daphile in about 10 minutes.
    Plugged in the Schiit, and the USB drive. Works fine, sounds great.
    Short of Raspberry Pi, this is the smallest form factor I know of, and is a very good fit for running a headless unit for playback. The more I play with Daphile, the more I like it.
    L-R, Schiit, Kangaroo, Toshiba USB drive.
     
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  11. Muzzerfuzzer

    Muzzerfuzzer AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I've just started using my laptop to play downloaded music from various sources. Am I missing something by running the sound card out into an Aux channel on my receiver? This sounds pretty good to me.
     
  12. whell

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    That's certainly one way to do it, particularly if your laptop has a top-notch sound card.

    You'll see other ways that folks use their computer as a source, including:
    • If their laptop/PC has a optical or coax digital output, run the output of that into a Receiver/Processor with a digital input.
    • If their laptop/PC has a optical or coax digital output, run the output of that into an external DAC
    • Connect an external DAC to the computer via USB
    • Make the computer a music server by connecting it to their home network and using it to serve digital audio files to other devices.
     
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  13. Muzzerfuzzer

    Muzzerfuzzer AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I use PotPlayer. It will play FLAC and about any music file out there and it's free. It has ample controls too. :)
     
  14. Muzzerfuzzer

    Muzzerfuzzer AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    I'm using all vintage analog for listening and other newer things for watching. I'm currently working on a combo build Plex server for both. Mainly I'm concentrating on the 2 channel stereo since I listen more than I watch. But both audio cards are rated really well. I've also got a decent Video card on the way. It'll all be AMD, win7 with a bit of a brand change on the video out. ;)
     
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  16. StimpyWan

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    I wish I could do that with my Aardvark Direct Pro Q10. It's an awesome sounding interface. But, since Aardvark went out of business years ago, it's drivers have been stuck at Windows XP. A shame too. A nice piece of hardware.
     

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