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SA-8100 Cap List

Discussion in 'Pioneer Audio' started by moschops, Aug 17, 2012.

  1. Marty Socal

    Marty Socal Active Member

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    I'm not sure if there's a limit up you can go, other than the added expense and size considerations.

    IIRC, I have read that a high voltage cap ran with a much lower voltage will take somewhat of a set to that lower voltage and may need reforming if you need to run the volts higher, later.
     

     

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  2. Marty Socal

    Marty Socal Active Member

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    Updating the post with a complete list of transistors and capacitors

    MAIN FILTER
    (Note: These are smaller than the original caps, you will need to adapt these to the mounting brackets, 25mm OD vs 35mm OD on the originals)
    10000UF 50V : 647-UKW1H103MRD
    10000UF 50V : 647-UKW1H103MRD

    AWF-006 - EQUALIZER AMP

    AWF-006 C1 2.2 25 cssa: 2.2 50 647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA
    AWF-006 C2 2.2 25 cssa: 2.2 50 647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA
    AWF-006 C5 470 6 cea: 470 10 647-UPW1A471MPD
    AWF-006 C6 470 6 cea: 470 10 647-UPW1A471MPD
    AWF-006 C9 100 6 cea: 100 10 647-UPW1A101MDD
    AWF-006 C10 100 6 cea: 100 10 647-UPW1A101MDD
    AWF-006 C11 2.2 25 cssa: 2.2 50 647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA
    AWF-006 C12 2.2 25 cssa: 2.2 50 647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA
    AWF-006 C19 100 25 cea: 100 25 647-UPW1E101MED
    AWF-006 C20 100 25 cea: 100 25 647-UPW1E101MED
    AWF-006 C21 220 16 cea: 220 16 647-UPW1C221MPD

    AWF-006 Q1 2SA774 t or s : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWF-006 Q2 2SA774 t or s : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWF-006 Q3 2SA774 t or s : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWF-006 Q4 2SA774 t or s : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWF-006 Q5 2SC1345 d or e : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWF-006 Q6 2SC1345 d or e : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWF-006 Q7 2SC1345 d or e : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWF-006 Q8 2SC1345 d or e : 512-KSC1845FTA


    AWG-017 - CONTROL AMP
    (See note below)

    AWG-017 C11 220 6 cea: 220 10 647-UPW1A221MED
    AWG-017 C12 220 6 cea: 220 10 647-UPW1A221MED
    AWG-017 C15 100 6 cea: 100 10 647-UPW1A101MDD
    AWG-017 C16 100 6 cea: 100 10 647-UPW1A101MDD
    AWG-017 C17 4.7 25 cssa: 4.7 25 647-UKL1E4R7KDDANA
    AWG-017 C18 4.7 25 cssa: 4.7 25 647-UKL1E4R7KDDANA

    AWG-017 Q1 2SC1478 t or s : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWG-017 Q2 2SC1478 t or s : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWG-017 Q3 2SC1478 t or s : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWG-017 Q4 2SC1478 t or s : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWG-017 Q5 2SA726 g or f : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWG-017 Q6 2SA726 g or f : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWG-017 Q7 2SC1345 d or e : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWG-017 Q8 2SC1345 d or e : 512-KSC1845FTA


    AWH-022 - POWER AMP

    AWH-022 C1 .22 25 cssa: .22 50 667-ECQ-V1H224JL5
    AWH-022 C2 .22 25 cssa: .22 50 667-ECQ-V1H224JL5
    AWH-022 C3 .47 25 cssa: .47UF 50 667-ECQ-V1H474JL3
    AWH-022 C4 .47 25 cssa: .47UF 50 667-ECQ-V1H474JL3
    AWH-022 C9 47 10 cea: 47 10 647-UPW1A470MDD6
    AWH-022 C10 47 10 cea: 47 10 647-UPW1A470MDD6
    AWH-022 C11 330 10 cea: 330 10 647-UPW1A331MPD
    AWH-022 C12 330 10 cea: 330 10 647-UPW1A331MPD
    AWH-022 C17 47 50 cea: 47 50 647-UPW1H470MED
    AWH-022 C18 47 50 cea: 47 50 647-UPW1H470MED
    AWH-022 C19 47 50 cea: 47 63 647-UPW1J470MPD
    AWH-022 C20 47 50 cea: 47 63 647-UPW1J470MPD
    AWH-022 C21 22 10 cea: 22 10 647-UPW1A220MDD
    AWH-022 C22 22 10 cea: 22 10 647-UPW1A220MDD

    AWH-022 Q1 2SA726 g or f : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWH-022 Q2 2SA726 g or f : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWH-022 Q3 2SA726 g or f : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWH-022 Q4 2SA726 g or f : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWH-022 Q5 2SC869 c or d : 512-KSC2383YTA
    AWH-022 Q6 2SC869 c or d : 512-KSC2383YTA
    AWH-022 Q7 2SA628A c or d : 512-KSA1013YBU
    AWH-022 Q8 2SA628A c or d : 512-KSA1013YBU
    AWH-022 Q9 2SC1451 v or b : 512-KSC3503DSTU
    AWH-022 Q10 2SC1451 v or b : 512-KSC3503DSTU
    AWH-022 Q11 2SD357 c or d : 512-KSC2690AYS
    AWH-022 Q12 2SD357 c or d : 512-KSC2690AYS
    AWH-022 Q13 2SB527 c or d : 512-KSA1220AYS
    AWH-022 Q14 2SB527 c or d : 512-KSA1220AYS
    AWH-022 Q15 2SD370 r or o : 863-MJ21194G
    AWH-022 Q16 2SD370 r or o : 863-MJ21194G
    AWH-022 Q17 2SB530 r or o : 863-MJ21193G
    AWH-022 Q18 2SB530 r or o : 863-MJ21193G

    AWK-020 - FILTER AMP

    AWK-020 C1 1 50 cea: 1 50 647-UPW1H010MDD
    AWK-020 C2 1 50 cea: 1 50 647-UPW1H010MDD
    AWK-020 C7 10 16 cea: 10 16 647-UPW1C100MDD
    AWK-020 C8 10 16 cea: 10 16 647-UPW1C100MDD
    AWK-020 C9 330 25 cea: 330 25 647-UPW1E331MPD6
    AWK-020 C10 330 25 cea: 330 25 647-UPW1E331MPD6

    AWK-020 Q1 2SC1345 e or d : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWK-020 Q2 2SC1345 e or d : 512-KSC1845FTA


    AWM-027 - PROTECTION UNIT

    AWM-027 C3 330 6 cea: 330 10 647-UPW1A331MPD
    AWM-027 C4 330 6 cea: 330 10 647-UPW1A331MPD
    AWM-027 C5 4.7 25 cea: 4.7 25 647-UKL1E4R7KDDANA
    AWM-027 C6 100 16 cea: 100 16 647-UPW1C101MED

    AWM-027 Q1 2SC857K-A : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWM-027 Q2 2SC857K-A : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWM-027 Q3 2SC945 r or q : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWM-027 Q4 2SC945 r or q : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWM-027 Q5 2SA733 : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWM-027 Q6 2SC945 r or q : 512-KSC2383YTA
    AWM-027 Q7 2SA1384 : 512-KSC2690AYS


    AWR-030 - POWER SUPPLY

    AWR-030 C6 220 50 cea: 220 63 647-UPW1J221MPD
    AWR-030 C7 220 50 cea: 220 63 647-UPW1J221MPD
    AWR-030 C8 220 50 cea: 220 63 647-UPW1J221MPD
    AWR-030 C9 220 50 cea: 220 63 647-UPW1J221MPD
    AWR-030 C10 100 50 cea: 100 63 647-UPW1J101MPD
    AWR-030 C11 100 50 cea: 100 63 647-UPW1J101MPD
    AWR-030 C12 10 16 cea: 10 35 647-UPW1V100MDD
    AWR-030 C13 10 16 cea: 10 35 647-UPW1V100MDD
    AWR-030 C16 330 35 cea: 330 50 647-UPW1H331MPD
    AWR-030 C17 220 50 cea: 220 63 647-UPW1J221MPD

    AWR-030 Q1 2SD313 d or e : 512-KSC2073TU
    AWR-030 Q2 2SB507 : 512-KSA940TU
    AWR-030 Q3 2SC945 r or q : 512-KSC2383YTA
    AWR-030 Q4 2SA733 : 512-KSA1013YBU


    AWS-035 - SWITCH UNIT A

    AWS-035 C5 .47 25 cssa: .47 50 667-ECQ-V1H474JL3
    AWS-035 C6 .47 25 cssa: .47 50 667-ECQ-V1H474JL3
    AWS-035 C7 .47 25 cssa: .47 50 667-ECQ-V1H474JL3
    AWS-035 C8 .47 25 cssa: .47 50 667-ECQ-V1H474JL3


    AWS-036 - SWITCH UNIT B

    AWS-035 C1 1 50 cea: 1 50 647-UPW1H010MDD
    AWS-035 C2 1 50 cea: 1 50 647-UPW1H010MDD
    AWS-035 C3 10 16 cea: 10 16 647-UPW1C100MDD
    AWS-035 C4 10 16 cea: 10 16 647-UPW1C100MDD

    AWS-036 Q1 2SC1345 g or f : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWS-036 Q2 2SC1345 g or f : 512-KSC1845FTA

    BOM
    (With Control amp board AWG-017, See note below)

    647-UKW1H103MRD | 2
    647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA | 4
    647-UPW1A471MPD | 2
    647-UPW1C101MED | 1
    647-UPW1E101MED | 2
    647-UPW1C221MPD | 1
    647-UKL1E4R7KDDANA | 3
    647-UPW1A470MDD6 | 2
    647-UPW1A221MED | 2
    647-UPW1A101MDD | 2
    647-UPW1A470MDD6 | 2
    647-UPW1A331MPD | 4
    647-UPW1H470MED | 2
    647-UPW1A220MDD | 2
    647-UPW1H010MDD | 4
    647-UPW1C100MDD | 4
    647-UPW1E331MPD6 | 2
    647-UPW1J221MPD | 5
    647-UPW1J101MPD | 2
    647-UPW1H331MPD | 1
    667-ECQ-V1H224JL5 | 2
    667-ECQ-V1H474JL3 | 6
    647-UPW1V100MDD | 2
    647-UPW1J470MPD | 2
    512-KSC1845FTA 18
    512-KSA992FBU 11
    512-KSC2383YTA 4
    512-KSC3503DSTU 2
    512-KSC2073TU 1
    512-KSC2690AYS 3
    512-KSA1220AYS 2
    512-KSA940TU 1
    512-KSA1013YBU 3
    863-MJ21194G 2
    863-MJ21193G 2

    NOTE:
    Moschops noted a difference in one board earlier in this thread, the AWG-017B, which has different, mostly tantalum, caps on it than the earlier AWG-017 board. Inspect your boards for differences and order per your unit.


    Different list for AWG-017B Control Amp Board:

    AWG-017B C1 1 25……1 25: 647-UKL1H010KDDANA 1uF 50v
    AWG-017B C2 1 25……1 25: 647-UKL1H010KDDANA 1uF 50v
    AWG-017B C11 22 6.3……22 6.3: 647-UKL1V220KEDANA 22uF 35v
    AWG-017B C12 22 16……22 6.3: 647-UKL1V220KEDANA 22uF 35v
    AWG-017B C15 100 6.3 ……100 6.3: 647-UKL1E101KPDANA 100uF 25v
    AWG-017B C16 100 6.3…….100 6.3: 647-UKL1E101KPDANA 100uF 25v
    AWG-017B C17 4.7 25……4.7 16 : 4.7 25 647-UKL1E4R7KDDANA
    AWG-017B C18 4.7 25……4.7 16 : 4.7 25 647-UKL1E4R7KDDANA
    AWG-017B C21 2.2 16……2.2 16 : 2.2 50 647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA
    AWG-017B C22 2.2 16……2.2 16 : 2.2 50 647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA
    AWG-017B C23 2.2 16……2.2 16 : 2.2 50 647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA

    BOM
    (When equipt with the AWG-017B Control Amp board)

    647-UKW1H103MRD | 2
    647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA | 4
    647-UPW1A471MPD | 2
    647-UPW1C101MED | 1
    647-UPW1E101MED | 2
    647-UKL1H010KDDANA | 2
    647-UKL1V220KEDANA | 2
    647-UKL1E101KPDANA | 2
    647-UKL1H2R2MDDANA | 3
    647-UPW1C221MPD | 1
    647-UKL1E4R7KDDANA | 3
    647-UPW1A470MDD6 | 2
    647-UPW1A470MDD6 | 2
    647-UPW1A331MPD | 4
    647-UPW1H470MED | 2
    647-UPW1A220MDD | 2
    647-UPW1H010MDD | 4
    647-UPW1C100MDD | 4
    647-UPW1E331MPD6 | 2
    647-UPW1J221MPD | 5
    647-UPW1J101MPD | 2
    647-UPW1H331MPD | 1
    667-ECQ-V1H224JL5 | 2
    667-ECQ-V1H474JL3 | 6
    647-UPW1V100MDD | 2
    647-UPW1J470MPD | 2
    512-KSC1845FTA 18
    512-KSA992FBU 11
    512-KSC2383YTA 4
    512-KSC3503DSTU 2
    512-KSC2073TU 1
    512-KSC2690AYS 3
    512-KSA1220AYS 2
    512-KSA940TU 1
    512-KSA1013YBU 3
    863-MJ21194G 2
    863-MJ21193G 2

    Corrections, substitutions or other suggestions appreciated!
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2013
  3. KeithD

    KeithD AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    The suggested replacements for AWH-022 - POWER AMP

    AWH-022 C1 .22 25 cssa: .22 50 667-ECQ-V1H224JL5
    AWH-022 C2 .22 25 cssa: .22 50 667-ECQ-V1H224JL5
    AWH-022 C3 .47 25 cssa: .47UF 50 667-ECQ-V1H474JL3
    AWH-022 C4 .47 25 cssa: .47UF 50 667-ECQ-V1H474JL3

    Are marked obsolete at Mouser. Anyone know the new replacements?
     
  4. redk9258

    redk9258 Super Member

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  5. markthefixer

    markthefixer On Hiatus, dealing with Dad's estate full time Subscriber

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    nice, inexpensive WIMA's ~0.20 ea

    AWH-022 C1 .22 25 cssa: .22 63 505-MKS2C032201BKI00
    AWH-022 C2 .22 25 cssa: .22 63 505-MKS2C032201BKI00
    AWH-022 C3 .47 25 cssa: .47UF 100 505-MKS2D034701E00JI
    AWH-022 C4 .47 25 cssa: .47UF 100 505-MKS2D034701E00JI
    these are tape, which have longer leads, the bulk caps have about 2.5mm of lead length.
    trimpots:
    652-3386F-1-101LF 100ohms 3386F Single Turn 3/8" ? 10% perpendicular to pcb ccw min#1 triangle
    652-3296Y-1-103LF 10Kohms 3296Y Multi Turn : 12 3/8" Sealed facing UP ccw min#1 triangle

    and the trimpots
    AWH-022 VR1 10k 652-3296Y-1-103LF
    AWH-022 VR2 10k 652-3296Y-1-103LF
    AWH-022 VR3 100 652-3386F-1-101LF
    AWH-022 VR4 100 652-3386F-1-101LF
     
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  6. audiomaniac2

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    This is perfect . I have one to restore
     

     

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  7. Finnface

    Finnface New Member

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    Hello.
    I am restoring my Pioneer SA-8100. I have read and reread these posts.
    Problem for my project.

    I don't have a AWM-027A Protection unit board.
    I have a AWM-027D Protection unit board.
    C3, C4, C5, C6 Caps for the AWM-027A match the AWM-027D. ( i don't know if they are called C3, C4, ....)
    good for me because I ordered them before opening my unit and looking at the AWM-### , lesson learned.

    Two other caps not listed are very small .22uF 10V Sanyo m309 Electrolytic caps.
    I cant seen to find a replacement caps or a drawing or the AWM-027D . any ideas?

    ~~ Need Replacement cap for 0.22uF 10V Sanyo m309 ~~ 2 each
    505-MKS2C032201BKI00 edit: I searched this site some more and found this.
    ~~ need Print for AWM-027D Protection Unit ~~

    The Transistors didn't match ether.
    This is what I can see on the board.

    C945 tq142 3 each
    C1384 r.3n 1 each
    A733 q241 1 each
    C869 24c 2 each

    I'm very new to cross refing parts but did come up with these # for transistors from Mouser and Weisd.com

    mouser... C945 = 512-KSC945CGBU
    mouser... A733 = 512-KSA733CGBU
    weisd.com.. C1384 = NTE 293
    weisd.com... C869 = NTE 194

    any help on my first project is appreciated.
    Thanks
    Finn
     
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2018
  8. chef free

    chef free AK Subscriber Subscriber

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    This post is worthy of its own thread.
     
  9. Finnface

    Finnface New Member

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    sorry i thought it had bearing on this thread.
     
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  10. KeithD

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    If you look at the recommended replacements for the protection transistors above in post #22 you'll see:

    AWM-027 Q1 2SC857K-A : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWM-027 Q2 2SC857K-A : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWM-027 Q3 2SC945 r or q : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWM-027 Q4 2SC945 r or q : 512-KSC1845FTA
    AWM-027 Q5 2SA733 : 512-KSA992FBU
    AWM-027 Q6 2SC945 r or q : 512-KSC2383YTA
    AWM-027 Q7 2SA1384 : 512-KSC2690AYS

    Only one not on there that you have is 2SC869. Replacement should be 512-KSC2383YTA.

    However, unless you are having problems with the protection circuit those do not need to be replaced, as none of them are on the "bad transistor list".
     
  11. chef free

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    It does but it important enough for its own thread. If you start its own thread, you will get direct answers. If you can express the issue clearly in the title (for example: "SA-8100 recap trouble, protection board does not match schematic"), other people with the same problem (you can't be the only one!) will be able to search for it too!
     

     

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